Shooting in Orlando

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by n david

So the fact the guy told multiple 911 operators that he was doing this in the name of isis and islam is ridiculous? He may not have been in direct contact with isis, but that doesn't matter. He still committed the act of terrorism in the name of isis.

It's not as though he said nothing about it and people are trying to connect him without evidence. There's evidence. And that evidence this administration is trying to remove and whitewash in order to push its narrative -- that isis is contained and not a threat.

We are getting ever closer to the point I would hope for a military coup to remove this turkey from office.

[Whoop Harted]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

What happened in Orlando?

The Homosexual Stonewall rally in Fort Lauderdale was running at full speed. They celebrated as if nothing happened. So, what happened in Orlando?

Welllllll

Now that you have decided to come in off the beaches and quit your sunbathing......

There was a mass shooting in a gay dance club there in Orlando......

I think....

Maybe if you don't know about it there then it never happened.....

Maybe?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by shazeep

oh, please already. Trying to connect him to Islam and/or IS was the ridiculous part.

My theory: Option A: The guy was a stooge being worked by FBI and/or CIA and/or XYZ agency(ies), specifically to create an 'ISIS threat to (gay) America. Option B: The guy was nowhere near Orlando, but they needed someplace to 'dump the body', so two birds with one stone, wet team takes out gay club, blame 'Omar', create 'ISIS terror plot in US so give up your rights' meme. Option C: One agency runs an op, other agencies not in the loop, looks bad for Obummer and Co so they whitewash the ISIS connection. Whoever was running the op was trying to create an ISIS terror plot but the optics for the admin weren't all too good, they decide to spin it another direction.

Other possibilities not excluded.

Did anyone hear about the guy arrested in LA at the same time with bombs and guns on his way to the gay pride parade there in Hollywood or whatever? Santa Monica, I think it was. Read a claim that he actually turned himself in to Santa Monica police wanting 'protection from the CIA', claimed that he and five others were part of a double-pronged attack plan, one in Orlando, one in LA, but when he heard brother Omar had been killed he figured the CIA had double crossed them so he wanted protection. Supposedly, FBI took over, and a gag order was placed on the locals not allowing them to discuss the case.

Hmmm....

[n david]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Did anyone hear about the guy arrested in LA at the same time with bombs and guns on his way to the gay pride parade there in Hollywood or whatever? Santa Monica, I think it was. Read a claim that he actually turned himself in to Santa Monica police wanting 'protection from the CIA', claimed that he and five others were part of a double-pronged attack plan, one in Orlando, one in LA, but when he heard brother Omar had been killed he figured the CIA had double crossed them so he wanted protection. Supposedly, FBI took over, and a gag order was placed on the locals not allowing them to discuss the case.

Hmmm....

Didn't hear that story. Everything I read and heard was someone reported a suspicious person who was arrested.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by n david

Didn't hear that story. Everything I read and heard was someone reported a suspicious person who was arrested.

Nope..that sounds to rational. Lets go with the more crazy ideas

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Nope..that sounds to rational. Lets go with the more crazy ideas

Yeah, like the terrorist was skulking around some houses knocking on windows so someone called the cops on him and that's how they saved the day.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by n david

So the fact the guy told multiple 911 operators that he was doing this in the name of isis and islam is ridiculous? He may not have been in direct contact with isis, but that doesn't matter. He still committed the act of terrorism in the name of isis.

yes, but given the likely circumstances that seems awfully convenient; sounds to me like IS woulda whacked his head off post-haste. After all, "i'm shooting the place up because i was jilted" is prolly not even on the menu. It is pointless imo to listen to an evildoer's justification for doing evil, except to analyze it for the inevitable lie.

i would not discount some scenario of Esaias', given the alpha soup's past history. I doubt rational explanations would even be reported now, unless there was no better spin, and there seems to be plenty of spin to go around here.

[KeptByTheWord]

It is hard for me to fathom how one person killed 49 people, and another 50+ people injured, and that no one was able to subdue him or tackle him. This alone makes me wonder about the whole situation and its validity as to the lone person carrying it out.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

It is hard for me to fathom how one person killed 49 people, and another 50+ people injured, and that no one was able to subdue him or tackle him. This alone makes me wonder about the whole situation and its validity as to the lone person carrying it out.

As a military person it is not hard for me to fathom that at all, actually one well armed person could inflict a whole lot more damage than this person if trained by the military.

[n david]

There's one exit in the building. Someone blocked the other. There were 350+ packed in the club.

I'm surprised he didn't kill more than 50.