You not preaching holiness till you've named it! - Page 16

shazeep · #**151** 09-08-2016, 07:56 AM

must anxiously await the day that he should appear.

i don't get how a believer can assert that they are the Body of Christ and yet be looking for a physical return. This seems to make "Body of Christ" into a lie imo. Guess that's another thread though, kinda.

Cracker Barrel · #**152** 09-08-2016, 08:02 AM

Gentlemen,
I appreciate your philosophy about holiness, your opinion is valid. But it must be balanced by doctrine. Those dat philosophize only are like babes without understanding. But everything we believe must be based on scripture, not just a verse we want to twist. It has to be line upon line precept upon precept.

Isaiah 28:9,10
Whom shall he teach knowledge?
and whom shall he make to understand doctrine?
them that are weaned from the milk,
and drawn from the breasts.
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept;
line upon line, line upon line;
here a little, and there a little:

houston · #**153** 09-08-2016, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by votivesoul

Gold is an element, created by God. Jewels are stones, created by God. In Genesis, all that God created was and is good.

These things, by their nature, are not evil or wicked. Their use of them, however, as it pertains to us, can become evil or wicked, as our fallen state, and the law of sin, so easily corrupts us and causes us to justify any number of things.

Ever hear the stoner say "But God made the herb, man!"

Does this mean using marijuana is okay because God made it?

Gold and jewels have to be addressed in a similar fashion. Just because God made them doesn't mean they get an automatic pass.

Never met anyone that got high when they touched gold.

houston · #**154** 09-08-2016, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

A mark on the forehead is symbolically given. This lines up with the mark given in Ezekiel's vision to the saints. So, a marking is made upon the forehead (per Ezekiel with ink). According to your logic, we can do this literally today.

No straw needed, you made your own hay. I just baled it for ya.

where are your clothes made and under what conditions?

returnman · #**155** 09-08-2016, 10:44 AM

I was going to read thru a few comments but don't have the time too. The original post makes me think of someone complaining because they went to a concert of their favorite artist and they didn't play the song they wanted to hear. Unless it's changed, I haven't been to one of these meetings in years, that clothesline preaching is a form of entertainment that falls on ears that have heard it hundreds of times already.

The hamburgers will still taste the same at Denny's after the service.

good samaritan · #**156** 09-08-2016, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

must anxiously await the day that he should appear.

i don't get how a believer can assert that they are the Body of Christ and yet be looking for a physical return. This seems to make "Body of Christ" into a lie imo. Guess that's another thread though, kinda.

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1 John 1:28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

I have no idea what you are meaning?

Esaias · #**157** 09-08-2016, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by good samaritan

Herein lies the difference of being called and chosen. We are called unto holiness. God wants to us to be like Christ and surrender to his will. When I gave my heart to God it was a package deal. I get in trouble sometimes with my wife because I have used some of her kitchen utensils in the shop. For the convenience I recently used a whisk to stir a can of paint. Needless to say it got me in trouble. I didn't use it for its intended purpose and defiled it from its original use.

When we give our hearts to God our purpose is to serve and obey his will. Just as a wife is to submit herself and be subject to her husband, we are to God. When we are in good relationship to God we are holy. I also note that everything that belongs to me also belongs to my wife. She is supposed to be submitted to me, but also there is nothing that I possess that is not within her grasp. If we submit ourselves to holiness, then we shall also reign with God. As a bride in relation to her groom, nothing is deprived her.

Although, at the moment we are only in the betrothal period. A Jewish bride was almost the same as married at the moment of her betrothal. If a maiden was betrothed and she stepped out on her soon to be husband she was deemed not just a fornicator. She was an adulterer, and this would make her defiled and unholy. God is not coming back for a harlot, but instead for a church with out spot or wrinkle.

I understand that Christ died for our sins to be purged and that is how we obtain our purity, but after coming to God we are to no longer live in disobedience. I think there is a difference between mistakes and willfully and purposely sinning. God is faithful to forgive us of mistakes but he will not allow his bride to be unfaithful. A covenant relationship works to ways. must anxiously await the day that he should appear.

Long story short. We are holy because of who we are betrothed to, but we are to live holy also because of who we are betrothed to.

So... she can use your shop files but you can't use her whisk?

lol j/k

Good post.

Esaias · #**158** 09-08-2016, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by returnman

I was going to read thru a few comments but don't have the time too. The original post makes me think of someone complaining because they went to a concert of their favorite artist and they didn't play the song they wanted to hear. Unless it's changed, I haven't been to one of these meetings in years, that clothesline preaching is a form of entertainment that falls on ears that have heard it hundreds of times already.

The hamburgers will still taste the same at Denny's after the service.

Its funny when people don't have time to read a thread and don't have interest to get involved but take the time and effort to point those things out.