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09-15-2016, 05:47 PM
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Re: Unconventional Church "Vision" Service
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Well to think there is not much difference in Calvinism & Free Will seems that doctrine don't mean much? Not picking or trying to provoke an argument.
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It is funny you mention that because our pastor said last week that someone was talking to him about a relative of theirs who was in bad shape on drugs and a lot of other things and that they were worried about him but not his salvation because he had given his life to Christ many years ago. Pastor told them they might not be worried about his salvation but pastor is!
We are not going to kick somebody out and not fellowship with them because of a difference in belief like this but hope that over time as we go through the bible and they are taught that they will see the error of their ways.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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09-15-2016, 07:42 PM
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Re: Unconventional Church "Vision" Service
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Surprised that you knew of the Children Of God. They were the first well organized group I met as a young "Jesus People" believer. They were really hard hitting. There is a video I watch showing them baptizing in Jesus name and praying for a guy to get the Holy Ghost.
I had seriously thought about joining them at one time. Then the truth came out about David Berg. He took what could have been a great group and led many into delusion and destruction. I think he will have one of the worse punishments in Hell.
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I knew some them.
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09-16-2016, 08:54 AM
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Loren Adkins
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Re: Unconventional Church "Vision" Service
I like it. Reminds me of the church my eldest daughter and her husband are starting. Good worship and good word every Sunday.
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09-16-2016, 12:30 PM
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Re: Unconventional Church "Vision" Service
More interesting than the typical Apostolic Church.
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09-16-2016, 03:54 PM
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Re: Unconventional Church "Vision" Service
I have been in some of those typical churches.
Glad my church is not "typical" !
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09-16-2016, 08:15 PM
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Re: Unconventional Church "Vision" Service
I didn't know that church was supposed to be "interesting"? I thought the people were the church? Hey, the local Greek Orthodox church is bound to have one of the most "interesting" services you can imagine!
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09-17-2016, 08:02 AM
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Re: Unconventional Church "Vision" Service
that seems pretty harsh E, i mean a church can't be interesting?
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09-17-2016, 11:01 AM
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Re: Unconventional Church "Vision" Service
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Originally Posted by Esaias
I didn't know that church was supposed to be "interesting"? I thought the people were the church? Hey, the local Greek Orthodox church is bound to have one of the most "interesting" services you can imagine!
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Well lets say in "contrast" to the ones around here I would hope they were interesting enough to make it worthwhile to go to. I guess some feel if you shout and have the token message that its a sin to miss a Church service its good enough.
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09-18-2016, 06:20 AM
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Re: Unconventional Church "Vision" Service
When grace is proclaimed, and grace being the person of Jesus, Church is always interesting. A service of the Church is interesting when we get together, build each other up, edify the fellowship, and exalt the Lord! The difference, the Church are the believers and the service is when we get together, and not just in a "church building". We are the Church, and where two or three are gathered together in His name, there He is in the midst of them!
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09-18-2016, 06:26 AM
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Re: Unconventional Church "Vision" Service
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Originally Posted by UnTraditional
where two or three are gathered together in His name, there He is in the midst of them!
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yes, that suggests quite a different model than the one we have been given to understand, imo. "Gathered together in His Name" is interpreted as the "why," when it is likely the "how."
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