The effects of hurting someone's family

[Sister Alvear]

Yes...I am writing this because of what was said on the other thread...

May I tell you a personal story....Maybe 10 years ago or so Brother Alvear, Raul Jr, Michael and I were in a youth camp. In fact I spoke in one of the services (daytime) and had tremendous results.

In another service an evangelist walked in that had no clue of what had transpired....Someway he got started on women preachers and went on and on...said some ridiculous things....the group of preachers putting on the youth camp were probably about half and half....however none had any problem with what I had said for it was not preaching. I was telling my life story.

After about 20 minutes of mocking women both my sons whispered let's get up and walk out mother...you have done more for the cause of Christ than this guy ever will...I said, No, soon it will be over....

After the meeting the preachers that did and did not believe in women preachers came to talk with me...I told them there was no problem...and the preacher did not even know I had spoken there.


My boys to this day can't hardly stomach that preacher...Today his wife is my friend....I doubt if she or he even realized I was there....I saw through what he really wanted....to be noticed by a money pastor there that did not believe in women....he needed a revival...

Some people (including me) need to pray for wisdom....We may be right about any given subject but our spirit can make us wrong.

I do not mean in any way take up for wrong or evil but Paul warned the people with tears....

[Steve Epley]

Never right to be ugly.

[aegsm76]

I have had to use blunt language sometimes.
However, I have endeavored to make sure that it is in a one on one conversation.
And the other party knows that I have their salvation as may concern.
You can be blunt and be kind.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

I have had to use blunt language sometimes.
However, I have endeavored to make sure that it is in a one on one conversation.
And the other party knows that I have their salvation as may concern.
You can be blunt and be kind.

That is true.

[Sister Alvear]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Never right to be ugly.

That is so true...here is an example....Elder Steve Epley treated my husband and I like royality at his conference. We will never forget the welcome. Do we see everything alike? No...but he and his wife are examples of hospitality.

We have people that visit us here that are of a different mindset....not long ago had the sweetest little Baptist lady spend a couple weeks with me. (she had been spirit filled somewhere along her journey and did not feel quite at home at the baptist church) My sister sent her to visit me. She had been a missionary in Communist China...and been in the middle east among Moslems for a time in her life....suffered great things....shot at...fled for safety.... she told us so many interesting things.


When she returned she told my sister, Janice has a very interesting church...they all talk in tongues...I could just live there!


If we live long enough at one time or another we all will be hurt....however let's do our best to be like Jesus even through our differences....Jesus kissed Judas (not calling anyone Judas) knowing that he sold him out and called him friend....

[mfblume]

Very good words.

[Sister Alvear]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

I have had to use blunt language sometimes.
However, I have endeavored to make sure that it is in a one on one conversation.
And the other party knows that I have their salvation as may concern.
You can be blunt and be kind.

agreed...

[KeptByTheWord]

As long as there are people on this earth, there will be disagreements, and differences. In the early church we see lots of differences of opinion and even doctrine, an example would be the difference between Peter and Paul at Jerusalem.

However, it is never, ever right to attack personally, mock or intend to hurt others. Discussion and debate are wonderful if both sides can discuss without attacking each other personally.

It is too easy today with the ease of social media to say things that should not have been said, but like Sis. Alvear said, words do hurt a long time.

God help us all to remember to season our words with grace and love before we hit "send".

[Esaias]

One thing we should also keep in mind is not taking things out of context and thinking they are personal, when they aren't. Sometimes we get into a mode where it seems like we are looking for a reason to take offense. We ought not to. If we want people to give us the benefit of the doubt and not immediately assume bad things about us we surely ought to extend the same courtesy to others...

Just saying in general, to nobody in particular.

[deacon blues]

Just read this today:

Romans 14 (NIV)
14 Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters. 2 One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them. 4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.

5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. 8 If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

10 You, then, why do you judge your brother or sister[a]? Or why do you treat them with contempt? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat. 11 It is written:

“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,
‘every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will acknowledge God.’”[b]
12 So then, each of us will give an account of ourselves to God.

13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister. 14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. 15 If your brother or sister is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy someone for whom Christ died. 16 Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.

19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall.

22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.[c]