Christians should NOT vote for Donal Trump

[Dante]

Originally Posted by Jason B

"Some questionable history" lol. Like OJ has some questionable history, or Casey Anthony has some questionable history, or anyone else who our weak justice system has let literally get away with murder. Sure, sure Hillary hasn't technically murdered anyone, but of all the dead people that have links to her, she knows nothing? Maybe its all just coincidence. Like the Trump violence, which then tapes prove to be the work of Hillary's people.
And rigging the Democratic primary, through Wasserman Shultz, Donna Brazille, and her cronies. Or callously lying to dead people families to cover her own skin. Then flippantly saying later "what difference does it make?" Indeed, it makes no difference to her, cause Hillary is all about herself. If someone has to die, be cheated, babies aborted, or gays married, what difference does it make, so long as she gets power?

Its sickening. And its sickening when Christians white wash this immoral wicked behavior. Don't come talking about holiness and live on the other threads, when you turn a blind eye to such corruption, and stand in favor of voting for the continued and permanent practice of abortion, supporting a party who platform is as anti God, anti Biblical, as it gets, in the history of our country.

This woman just DEFENDED killing a baby the at full term! How any Christian could support that is lost on me.

Not sure where you got such misinformation about Hillary and late-term abortions, but you're wrong.

Here are the facts:

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/cli...erm-abortions/

Also, Trump is pro-choice, so if abortion is your only issue then you don't have much to choose from.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Dante

Not sure where you got such misinformation about Hillary and late-term abortions, but you're wrong.

Here are the facts:

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/cli...erm-abortions/

Also, Trump is pro-choice, so if abortion is your only issue then you don't have much to choose from.

Did you watch the last debate?

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Dante

Not sure where you got such misinformation about Hillary and late-term abortions, but you're wrong.

Here are the facts:

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/cli...erm-abortions/

Also, Trump is pro-choice, so if abortion is your only issue then you don't have much to choose from.

So you post a fact check article in which the first sentence is:

"Hillary Clinton said that late-term abortions "are because of medical necessity." There is little research on the subject, but existing data do not support her claim."

This makes no sense if you are defending Hillary. And abortion isn't my "only issue", but if there's a choice between pro life and murder of innocent children, its a deal breaker for me. We may arrive at the day that is no longer the case, but not thus far. For regardless of Trump's past position, this cycle he has been staunchly pro life.

I have no plans to vote for either, but a vote for Hillary is a vote for killing babies, you can't side step that.

[n david]

Hillary made it VERY clear...crystal clear...in the last debate that she wants to legalize the ability to murder a baby up to the point of childbirth. I watched the debate, I heard her state this live. I don't care what some website may claim. This was straight from Hillary's mouth.

[Dante]

So, you're still going to vote for Trump who is also pro-choice? That makes sense.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Dante

So, you're still going to vote for Trump who is also pro-choice? That makes sense.

You do assume much.

I'm not voting either.

[mfblume]

I'm amazed at how many of you aren't voting. Paul the Apostle appealed to his Roman citizenship in order to spread the gospel further when he was being arrested. The soldiers released him. I think you folks need to pray ask God to give you the decision, and then vote. We're not just to sit back and believe everything's going to work out. I believe we can pray, ask God to direct us for our vote and act on that, and influence the election.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I'm amazed at how many of you aren't voting. Paul the Apostle appealed to his Roman citizenship in order to spread the gospel further when he was being arrested. The soldiers released him. I think you folks need to pray ask God to give you the decision, and then vote. We're not just to sit back and believe everything's going to work out. I believe we can pray, ask God to direct us for our vote and act on that, and influence the election.

American citizens don't lose their citizenship if they choose not to vote.

Aren't you, inadvertently, giving God his directions by saying, "You folks need to pray ask God to give you the decision and then vote." What if God doesn't tell someone to vote? I don't have any strong direction from God that I need to vote this election cycle.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

American citizens don't lose their citizenship if they choose not to vote.

Aren't you, inadvertently, giving God his directions by saying, "You folks need to pray ask God to give you the decision and then vote." What if God doesn't tell someone to vote? I don't have any strong direction from God that I need to vote this election cycle.

I believe God influences nations more directly when believers in those nations pray for how they should vote and then do it. Think about two choices. Praying for God to cause everyone to vote the right way to get his will in the end, or for each of us as individuals to pray how we should vote. Which gets has will done more perfectly? Unbelievers moved upon to vote or believers praying and then moved upon to vote?

I never implied anything about losing citizenship. I meant Paul acted on a citizenship in a godless empire to do what he could to see the gospel go forward.

Pray for which view would move the gospel more, and act on it.

I think the choice between not voting to see his will done and voting to see it done is an easy one. Did you pray for how to vote?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I believe God influences nations more directly when believers in those nations pray for how they should vote and then do it. Think about two choices. Praying for God to cause everyone to vote the right way to get his will in the end, or for each of us as individuals to pray how we should vote. Which gets has will done more perfectly? Unbelievers moved upon to vote or believers praying and then moved upon to vote?

I never implied anything about losing citizenship. I meant Paul acted on a citizenship in a godless empire to do what he could to see the gospel go forward.

Pray for which view would move the gospel more, and act on it.

I think the choice between not voting to see his will done and voting to see it done is an easy one. Did you pray for how to vote?

Paul acting on his citizenship has nothing to do with voting. I am an American regardless and can further the Gospel without voting.

The Christian church, at large, has the same statistics as the world - divorce, out of wedlock children, STD's, etc., etc., If the church, at large, had been taking their belief and commitment to God seriously, we wouldn't be having the two candidates we have today.

Yes, I have been praying about it, and will continue to do so up until election day. I noticed my voting cards are in my top desk drawer. I know where they are if I need them. And fortunately, in Texas, you need your ID to vote.

I believe not voting for either of these two extremely vile people would move the Gospel forward. Having a large percentage of Republicans not voting, as a matter of record for the Republican nominee, would send a message that we don't condone this type of person on the Republican ticket. The Republican Party has always had a larger bar raised for anyone deciding to get in and run for office who has skeletons in their closet. Trump has so many skeletons the door can't be shut to keep them in. He has lowered that bar considerably and it is very dangerous moving forward to allow this.

We've never had two such vile people running for President at the same time. The old mantra, "Voting for the Lesser of two evils" is certainly accurate this election cycle.