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05-14-2017, 12:35 AM
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Re: More on Skirts
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Yet, the above statement can be used by every different denomination. Yet, they stand opposed to you. The proof is in the pudding. Yet, sadly everyone believes they reinvented the wheel. All while they stamp the Jesus label across the back. If something is an abomination to God then it makes Him sick, if it is an abomination to you, then it makes you sick.
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I believe that we can all agree that cross dressing is an abomination.
What I disagree with is the notion that this verse is primarily about women's pants.
Now, when it comes to pants, on both men and women, the subject of modesty becomes relevant.
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05-14-2017, 01:39 AM
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Re: More on Skirts
Deut. 22:5 says nothing about military attire, crossdressing or modesty.
The issue is "mixing things"
Mixing things, both in Deut 22 and in the parallel passage in Leviticus chapter 19, are the central issue.
Do not mate different kinds of animals.
“‘Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed.
“‘Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material. Lev. 19:19
Do not plant two kinds of seed in your vineyard; if you do, not only the crops you plant but also the fruit of the vineyard will be defiled.
10 Do not plow with an ox and a donkey yoked together.
11 Do not wear clothes of wool and linen woven together. Debt. 22:9
It is in this context of not mixing things we find Deut. 22:5. It is another example of things we do not mix.
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05-14-2017, 06:19 AM
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Re: More on Skirts
Enough is enough... Over 411 responses and over 6,000 views. Plus how many hurt feelings and insults?
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05-14-2017, 07:12 AM
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Re: More on Skirts
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Originally Posted by LOVE JESUS
Enough is enough... Over 411 responses and over 6,000 views. Plus how many hurt feelings and insults?
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Whose feelings got hurt?
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05-14-2017, 02:01 PM
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Whose feelings got hurt?
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Not sure.
I'll say this, I get a kick out of the banter from EB. Anyone taking an internet forum so serious they get their feelings hurt, needs to sign off, permanently.
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"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
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05-14-2017, 08:11 PM
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Re: More on Skirts
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Not sure.
I'll say this, I get a kick out of the banter from EB. Anyone taking an internet forum so serious they get their feelings hurt, needs to sign off, permanently.
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05-14-2017, 08:43 PM
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Re: More on Skirts
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Originally Posted by Scott Pitta
Deut. 22:5 says nothing about military attire, crossdressing or modesty.
The issue is "mixing things"
Mixing things, both in Deut 22 and in the parallel passage in Leviticus chapter 19, are the central issue.
Do not mate different kinds of animals.
“‘Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed.
“‘Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material. Lev. 19:19
Do not plant two kinds of seed in your vineyard; if you do, not only the crops you plant but also the fruit of the vineyard will be defiled.
10 Do not plow with an ox and a donkey yoked together.
11 Do not wear clothes of wool and linen woven together. Debt. 22:9
It is in this context of not mixing things we find Deut. 22:5. It is another example of things we do not mix.
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Scott?
Deuteronomy 22:5 is an abomination unto God. Deuteronomy 22:11 isn't an abomination unto God. From verses 1-4 we are being told about how to conduct yourself with your neighbor, nothing about mixing. No mention about an abomination until we get to Deuteronomy 22:5 . In Deuteronomy 22:6 speaks about the attitude towards an innocent animal. Just like the honoring of mother and father will prolong your days, the same goes with treatment towards animals nesting. That is all about attitude, nothing about mixing, nothing about an abomination. Deuteronomy 22:8 "When you build a new house, you must build a railing around the edge of its flat roof. That way you will not be considered guilty of murder if someone falls from the roof. That is speaking of builders liability, nothing about mixing, no mention of it being an abomination unto God. Deuteronomy 22:9 is agricultural advisement, no mention of an abomination unto God. Deuteronomy 22:10 is advisement concerning livestock, no abomination unto God. Just more agricultural advisory warnings. Deuteronomy 22:11 has more to do with hygiene in hot climates, apparel which causes perspiration. Deuteronomy 22:12 instructs the Israelite to fashion their cloak with a religious memorial. Again, no abomination nothing about mixing. Deuteronomy 22:13-30 deals with legal issues with marriage, divorce, incest, and virgins. No abominations unto God, and nothing about mixing.
Deuteronomy 22:5 is about crossdressing.
Pants were worn by priests, by men, by soldiers. No women wearing pants. So pants were found in the Hebrew Men's dept in the Levitical Macy's. 
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05-14-2017, 08:44 PM
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Re: More on Skirts
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Originally Posted by Aquila
I believe that we can all agree that cross dressing is an abomination.
What I disagree with is the notion that this verse is primarily about women's pants.
Now, when it comes to pants, on both men and women, the subject of modesty becomes relevant.
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Deuteronomy 22:5 ain't saying a thing about modesty.
Good grief.
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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05-14-2017, 09:09 PM
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Re: More on Skirts
I didn't get my feelings hurt by any means BUT I have seen insults against some of the posters and unless people are dead to their feelings, it would have to hurt. Some posters have been rude and I don't like that - not rude to me but to some of the posters who were explaining their view point. If they didn't get hurt - fine they are one tuff person. I think things need to be said in love and not demeaning to others.
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Whose feelings got hurt?
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05-14-2017, 09:12 PM
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Re: More on Skirts
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Originally Posted by LOVE JESUS
I didn't get my feelings hurt by any means BUT I have seen insults against some of the posters and unless people are dead to their feelings, it would have to hurt. Some posters have been rude and I don't like that - not rude to me but to some of the posters who were explaining their view point. If they didn't get hurt - fine they are one tuff person. I think things need to be said in love and not demeaning to others.
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Like Jason B said, anyone taking an internet forum so serious they get their feelings hurt, needs to sign off, permanently. That is very sobering advise on so many levels it isn't funny. Again, thumbs up JB. 
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