Charlie Gard

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Just this week, Charlie Gard’s parents removed their petition to take Charlie abroad when they realized the “window of opportunity” to treat him had already closed.
What’s most disturbing about this case is that the State believes they know better than parents on what’s best for their own child. What’s even more disturbing is those on the left believe the same thing. As discussed at NewsBusters:

In a piece for The Guardian entitled “Despite Charlie Gard’s Tragic Story, We Must Respect The Process Of Our Courts,” UCL health professor, Ian Kennedy, expressed sympathy for the plight of Charlie, but ultimately justified it on the basis that “children do not belong to their parents.”

…As a society, we must choose how to decide such heartbreaking cases. Of course each child is different, but do we accept that there should be principles and rules, whatever the circumstances, that guide us as we try to work out what’s best?
These are the steps. The first is to recognise that children do not belong to their parents. Second, when a claim is made that parents have rights over their children, it is important to step back and examine the language used. We need to remind ourselves that parents do not have rights regarding their children, they only have duties, the principal duty being to act in their children’s best interests. This has been part of the fabric of our law and our society for a long time. Third, if we are concerned with the language of rights, it is, of course, children who have rights; any rights that parents have exist only to protect their children’s rights.

In other words, parents have no actual rights to make decisions for their children if the State doesn’t agree with those decisions.

Parents are simply guardians of their own children and the State knows better.
This is the society we live in today. The left believes parents aren’t the best “deciders” for their children; rather, the “experts” and the all-knowing bureaucrats know exactly what children really need. And this line of thinking isn’t just in Europe.

http://thefederalistpapers.org/world...te-not-parents

I don't think the point is that the state knows better than parents. I think the point is that when the medical community agrees that something is or isn't in the best interest of a child, the parents have a duty to act in accordance to the medical community's conclusions. And as a result, if the parents do not act in what is deemed to be the child's best interests, the state has the authority to rule in favor of the medical community's conclusions and take action to protect the child.

For example, the JW's don't believe in blood transfusions. If the child of a JW family is in a tragic school bus accident, the medical community can override the parent's refusal of a blood transfusion and act to save the child's life. Should the parents fight this, state authorities will support the medical community. The child's right to well being outweigh the will of the parents.

It's not a perfect approach. But the only other option would be to essentially declare that a child is more like property that is owned by the parents.

It's really the only ethical position.

[Amanah]

the medical community may decide that your child has a right to gender reassignment or an abortion, is that ok?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Amanah

the medical community may decide that your child has a right to gender reassignment or an abortion, is that ok?

If you raise your children in the Word and in the love of God and treat them right, the state can give them the right to do anything they please, it won't matter.

We have to get away from thinking like statists. This is a spiritual Kingdom. Everyone is all filled with anxiety screaming, "What if the state this?", and, "What if the state that?" I say, my family will simply live for Jesus. Let the dogs bark.

Joshua 24:15 (ESV)
And if it is evil in your eyes to serve the Lord, choose this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your fathers served in the region beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.”

[Esaias]

He's dead:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...rlie-gard-dies

Read the article. This is "socialized medicine" aka government managed health care. A child is terminally ill, going to die, but authorities and experts (who get paid for it) decide it would be damaging to the terminally ill patient to have him go somewhere else for specialized treatment. So they fight the parents, and then its too late. And the parents finally wanted to just take him home to die, but no! That would require too much medical care! He has to go to hospice! He will die too quickly at home, so he is shunted to hospice and then has the plug pulled on him.

Pure, unmitigated evil.

THIS is why all leftists, socialists, communists, "progressives", democrats, etc are a real live THREAT TO LIFE AND LIBERTY, and why there can be NO COMPROMISE with these evil vermin whatsoever. Mengele is dead but his proteges live on.

[MawMaw]

Bless his sweet little heart.
Prayers for the Gard family.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Aquila

We have to get away from thinking like statists.

Says the guy who supports the party of pure statist tyranny.

Don't worry, many of us have already gotten away from thinking like statists. You ought to as well. Its called repentance. You'll feel better, trust me.