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08-13-2017, 05:46 PM
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Re: Submission? Or Power and Control?
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Yep. But he didn't.
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OK, what does the word "ἄτομος," have to do with 1 Corinthians 11:15?
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08-13-2017, 05:48 PM
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Re: Submission? Or Power and Control?
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She didn't say ILG feels insulted-she said stop insulting ILG. Two different things.
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You aren't being insulted.
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08-13-2017, 05:53 PM
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Re: Submission? Or Power and Control?
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The problem comes in when it becomes a gospel that is earned or kept by keeping things that are not clearly biblical rather than a gospel that you don't earn and can't boast about.
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When what becomes Gospel?
Sis, the organization has NO STATEMENT saying that they believe hair has the power of all 6 Infinity Stones.
Wow, your cheerleader is going to be pretty disappointed in you. Because you keep getting logic thrown at you but you still are shouting, " Off With Her Head!"
Hey, do you know that forgiveness, TRUE FORGIVENESS is a salvational issue?
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08-13-2017, 06:02 PM
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Re: Submission? Or Power and Control?
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If that is the case, every preacher who was delivered from alcohol better never mention it after 20 years because they should get past it and move on. And if 20 years is the cut off date, I have a number to go yet.  |
Now, what you do is testifying? Wow.
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08-13-2017, 06:06 PM
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Re: Submission? Or Power and Control?
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Then why are you insulting me for calling it out and saying it isn't right? Maybe you should pat me on the back and say we agree and go have coffee?
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No one is insulting you.
Calling it out? No, you were in a church who taught you something. You found other people who were taught the same thing. You all sat down and theorized that everyone taught the same thing. You then took your show on the road, opened a Face Book forum to sit and discuss how everyone is bad but you all are good? Is that insulting? No, that is me being able to have fun with this illogical conversation. Because there is a solution, but you aren't looking for that. You just want to continue on this course believing that we all believe a woman's hair has sonar that locks onto angel's chemtrails.
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08-13-2017, 06:09 PM
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Re: Submission? Or Power and Control?
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How is that obvious? I'm trying to talk Bible but you are still stuck in some chit chat wanting me to decipher this through what is obvious in the world around me? Or obvious with the scripture? Sister the Greek word being used actually means to grow locks long. I showed how the Latin Vulgate interprets the word with the Latin word for growth, as to grow a child through nursing. The earliest Spanish Bible uses the word crecer which means GROW.
The translators and interpreters weren't UPC
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So, fine. It means grow. What is your point?
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Did they walk around with rulers? Maybe they had chalk lines? How'd they determine what is long and what is short? Yep, this logic is all the UPCI's fault?
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They looked with their eyes. Again, your point?
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Sis, what did the vow represent and why did John take the vow as a youth. Luke 1:15? Why, what is the meaning?
What was different in the vow when a married women or daughter made the vow?
Sister, Judeans drank wine, sat shiva, and sacrificed animals through a mediator priesthood. 1st Corinthians 11 and Nazarite vows are comparing apples with lug nuts. No human being living today can keep a Nazarite vow. Yet, an Apostolic woman can grow her hair.
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Is a woman sinning if she cuts her hair?
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08-13-2017, 06:20 PM
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Re: Submission? Or Power and Control?
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Do you preach against the trinity? Thought so.
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Sis, the brother who I'd be preaching for would also preach against the trinity.
So, you either missed my important point I was making, or feel that I should of refuted the sister after she sat down in her pew with my pulpit time?
OK, I'll give this a try.
I will be in the pulpit for whatever time the preacher gives me, or if I am granted liberty, it's open. But the pastor, he will be with the people for more hours, days, years, and have quality time with his people. I don't. So, if I go and get the idea I'm going to school these people on how I think hair being draped over a sick daughter isn't Biblical. She and HER church family will shut me off like an alarm clock in the wee hours of the morning. The minister needs to speak with the minister. Because if you do it over the pulpit, when you were invited to preach. Then you feel the need to bring something new an exciting to his people. You may never see it, but the pastor who is sitting behind you as you slice some revelation, is showing is alram to his people.
His face looks like a mule eating briars, and your whole new and exciting view is being ignored.
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08-13-2017, 06:29 PM
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Re: Submission? Or Power and Control?
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So, fine. It means grow. What is your point?
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So, growth is no more growth if it is cut.
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They looked with their eyes. Again, your point?
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Is that what is says? It says hair as women. If we go with your idea of "long" we would need to determine what long is? Longer than a man? They cropped their hair, polling, which looked like what the Romans wore. Therefore if we discard growth, and take your "long" our lenght would be shoulder? That is what the Greek word means.
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Is a woman sinning if she cuts her hair?
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Getting tired sister?
I'm not.
I explained that already.
Do you know where in this thread?
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08-13-2017, 06:30 PM
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Re: Submission? Or Power and Control?
Sis, when is a man or woman sinning?
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08-13-2017, 06:40 PM
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Re: Submission? Or Power and Control?
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Of course I did all those things. I searched, I fasted I prayed. 16 years later, in my prayer closet, I finally had a revelation and I have never been the same since.
I know you don't understand the mind prison. Men usually don't because having short hair is very accepted as the norm in our society for men. No one asks you (probably) "Why do you keep your hair short?" Women, on the other hand, have to answer all sorts of questions there is no real answer to. We know the bible says long hair is given for a covering, but we can't answer why Samson was told not to cut his hair, why the Nazarite vow and shaving of the head was also for women and why long for women means uncut but long for men means below the ears because it isn't biblical, it's just tradition.
The mind prison is hard to explain, but it's very real and the reason I write these blogs because it takes a lot for people to wrap their heads around it but most of the time, they know on some level it's true. When a woman believes these fear-mongering tales that have no basis in reality and she's told that she's wrong with God if she doesn't believe them, mind prison results.
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Mind prison?
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