Jealousy: The Worst Sin of All? - Page 2

Nahum · #11 06-11-2007, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Neckstadt

Sometimes it is fear that hinders some folks from allowing other folks to move forward in the ministry.

It is not a Jealous thought in the mind of the person being held back.

We preach and teach and talk about Jealousy.

I think it is high time someone were to preach and teach on how not to cause folks to bring forth that fealing in folks.....

But wouldn't that fear that hinders be birthed from jealousy?
ie a minister having a Saul complex toward a potential David?

SDG · #12 06-11-2007, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

Pr 13:10 Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom.
Pr 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

I like PEACE, so the first verse is my favorite.

I submit that jealousy is a symptom of pride ... We often associate pride with just arrogance ... However pride is a FOCUS ON SELF ... and it displays itself in ways we don't often associate with pride/self-focus.

A person who hates their self ... suffering from an inferiority complex ... and is willing to take their life ... is as proud as the Pharisee who believes their spirituality and works outshine us all ... the FOCUS IS STILL THE SAME ... SELF.

Those who struggle w/ jealousy and coveting also have pride issues. The focus is on self when they wish they could have what is not theirs, want someone for their self, etc.

Nahum · #13 06-11-2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

Pr 13:10 Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom.
Pr 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

I like PEACE, so the first verse is my favorite.

Good point.

As you can kinda tell, I don't like being wrong.

But, the older I get, the more I realize that sometimes the spoil of victory is not worth the battle scars. Contention really is a pride issue.

But isn't pride related to jealousy?

RevDWW · #14 06-11-2007, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Sure, why not? BTW, aren't pride and jealousy like twins? They sure look and act a lot alike.

I don't know about twins, but they are blood related......

Pride and Idolatry would be twins.............so would be
Stubbornness and Witchcraft......IMHO

revrandy · #15 06-11-2007, 11:24 AM

Pride is something that can't be hidden that well.....

Jealosy can...

It can be a seething, festering cauldron hidden underneath the surface...

I do think at times it can boil over..but folks can hide it well...

Pride is much more visible... imo...

Nahum · #16 06-11-2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I submit that jealousy is a symptom of pride ... We often associate pride with just arrogance ... However pride is a FOCUS ON SELF ... and it displays itself in ways we don't often associate with pride/self-focus.

A person who hates their self ... suffering from an inferiority complex ... and is willing to take their life ... is as proud as the Pharisee who believe their spirituality and works outshine us all ... the FOCUS IS STILL THE SAME ... SELF.

Those who struggle w/ jealousy and coveting also have pride issues. The focus is on self when they wish they could have what is not theirs, want someone for their self, etc.

Excellent post, Danielson!

The biggest fears in humans are death, which is totally a survival instinct, and public speaking, which is totally a pride issue. We want people to view us as "together". Public speaking often demonstrates that we are not.

I have always said that shyness is a fruit of pride and jealousy.

revrandy · #17 06-11-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Excellent post, Danielson!

The biggest fears in humans are death, which is totally a survival instinct, and public speaking, which is totally a pride issue. We want people to view us as "together". Public speaking often demonstrates that we are not.

I have always said that shyness is a fruit of pride and jealousy.

Some folks just don't have the personality others do.... Before I label them I would at least like to know them..

RevDWW · #18 06-11-2007, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Excellent post, Danielson!

The biggest fears in humans are death, which is totally a survival instinct, and public speaking, which is totally a pride issue. We want people to view us as "together". Public speaking often demonstrates that we are not.

I have always said that shyness is a fruit of pride and jealousy.

Does labeling people come from a pridfilled heart?????

revrandy · #19 06-11-2007, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW

Does labeling people come from a pridfilled heart?????

Smarmy!!!!

SDG · #20 06-11-2007, 11:31 AM

In most cases, "Shyness" can be attributed ... to temperament ...which is God-given ... but some use it as a rouse to cover their selves ...

I also think jealousy is probably one the most dangerous expressions of pride. One only has to look at the amount of women murdered in this country because of jealousy to see it's heinous power over man's heart.