An anrchist takes on big pharma

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

whats crazy is that pot was once demonized as a "gateway drug" and now its being used as an "exit drug" to get off of opioid dependency.up to April of 2016 had seen 250,000 deaths of opioid overdoses.Opiods 250,000 Pot 0 not counting instances of impaired judgement.

"No, that plant that you would have to smoke 1500 pounds in 15 minutes to be lethal is bad but Id be glad to refill your scrip for oxy."

Yeah...people need Jesus...they need a church that walks in power and wields the authority its been given.

Oxy and pot have I none but such as I have give I thee....In the name of Jesus Christ....

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Appealing to emotion is not really addressing the issue.

One can logically justify almost anything. But when you bring the heart and emotions on board, people generally begin to really feel what is right down in their bones.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Aquila

One can logically justify almost anything. But when you bring the heart and emotions on board, people generally begin to really feel what is right down in their bones.

I would disagree.
I would say that emotions bring out the worst in us.
"The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked".

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Appealing to emotion is not really addressing the issue.

dude keep that heresy off this pentecostal forum lol

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

I would disagree.
I would say that emotions bring out the worst in us.
"The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked".

Read the Psalms, feel the emotion, feel the passion. Emotion is one thing that sets us apart from the beasts of the earth. I can make a logical argument for an abortion. I can make a logical argument for eugenics. I can make a logical argument for euthanasia. However, if we allow ourselves to "feel" those choices, we are more likely to make the right choices. You can often feel that something is wrong deep down in your gut even though every argument for it is perfectly logical.

Consider the ministry of Jesus. He didn't preach, speak, or interact like an emotionless robot. He was passionate. He raised His voice, He rebuked, flipped tables, and even wept over the pain of others. Jesus was a man of passion and great emotion!

The verse you quote doesn't mean that we should never allow ourselves to feel our emotions, listen to our emotions, express our emotions, or care about emotion. What it is saying is that we have a sinful and deceitful nature at our core. But, for the born again believer, this isn't the case. God has given us a new heart, made of flesh, and a new Spirit...

Ezekiel 36:26
And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.

Today, Christians are known for being emotionless, heartless, cruel, unmerciful, unfeeling, and lacking common curtesy. And when we do express emotion, it is generally anger and disgust. I propose to you that Christians should find their hearts and allow their emotions to flow again. Yes, we should "feel" again. We should allow ourselves to be moved with mercy, compassion, righteous indignation towards injustice, and a passion for Jesus.

Those who wish to snuff out your emotions want you to be a robot... for a reason. Because once you eliminate someone's emotions... they are easier to control and to become pawns.

What I say to you, I say to all, FEEL!

I think this is another reason why churches don't like me. Not only do I speak up when I hear something stupid, I'm not above flipping a few tables if the stupidity continues.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Read the Psalms, feel the emotion, feel the passion. Emotion is one thing that sets us apart from the beasts of the earth. I can make a logical argument for an abortion. I can make a logical argument for eugenics. I can make a logical argument for euthanasia. However, if we allow ourselves to "feel" those choices, we are more likely to make the right choices. You can often feel that something is wrong deep down in your gut even though every argument for it is perfectly logical.

Consider the ministry of Jesus. He didn't preach, speak, or interact like an emotionless robot. He was passionate. He raised His voice, He rebuked, flipped tables, and even wept over the pain of others. Jesus was a man of passion and great emotion!

The verse you quote doesn't mean that we should never allow ourselves to feel our emotions, listen to our emotions, express our emotions, or care about emotion. What it is saying is that we have a sinful and deceitful nature at our core. But, for the born again believer, this isn't the case. God has given us a new heart, made of flesh, and a new Spirit...

Ezekiel 36:26
And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.

Today, Christians are known for being emotionless, heartless, cruel, unmerciful, unfeeling, and lacking common curtesy. And when we do express emotion, it is generally anger and disgust. I propose to you that Christians should find their hearts and allow their emotions to flow again. Yes, we should "feel" again. We should allow ourselves to be moved with mercy, compassion, righteous indignation towards injustice, and a passion for Jesus.

Those who wish to snuff out your emotions want you to be a robot... for a reason. Because once you eliminate someone's emotions... they are easier to control and to become pawns.

What I say to you, I say to all, FEEL!

I think this is another reason why churches don't like me. Not only do I speak up when I hear something stupid, I'm not above flipping a few tables if the stupidity continues.

If the bolded is your worldview, you need to change it.
Emotions are fine, when you use it within the framework laid out in the word of God.
They can lead to trouble when used outside of that context.
I hate to use this as a comparison, but I just finished reading a book by Albert Speer, who was a leader in Hitler's Germany.
He was one of the only leaders who was not executed after the Nuremberg trials.
He spent 20 years in prison, which gave him time to analyze his actions.
What do you think that Hitler and his leaders appealed to in order to gain power.
Emotion.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

If the bolded is your worldview, you need to change it.
Emotions are fine, when you use it within the framework laid out in the word of God.
They can lead to trouble when used outside of that context.
I hate to use this as a comparison, but I just finished reading a book by Albert Speer, who was a leader in Hitler's Germany.
He was one of the only leaders who was not executed after the Nuremberg trials.
He spent 20 years in prison, which gave him time to analyze his actions.
What do you think that Hitler and his leaders appealed to in order to gain power.
Emotion.

Ive had issues with emotional problems in the past and thats why I learned the habit of not trusting feelings and trying to use something other than myself and how I felt to guide my actions. Im uncomfortable with how common emotional manipulation has become in a church setting.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

If the bolded is your worldview, you need to change it.
Emotions are fine, when you use it within the framework laid out in the word of God.
They can lead to trouble when used outside of that context.
I hate to use this as a comparison, but I just finished reading a book by Albert Speer, who was a leader in Hitler's Germany.
He was one of the only leaders who was not executed after the Nuremberg trials.
He spent 20 years in prison, which gave him time to analyze his actions.
What do you think that Hitler and his leaders appealed to in order to gain power.
Emotion.

They appealed to our "darker" emotions. We shouldn't demonize emotion in general. Evil men always appeal to emotions such as fear, racism, patriotism, self-righteousness, superiority, and the justification of killing. However, not all emotional appeals are wrong. What preacher doesn't become emotionally demonstrative when preaching to save the souls of their listeners?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Read the Psalms, feel the emotion, feel the passion. Emotion is one thing that sets us apart from the beasts of the earth. I can make a logical argument for an abortion. I can make a logical argument for eugenics. I can make a logical argument for euthanasia. However, if we allow ourselves to "feel" those choices, we are more likely to make the right choices. You can often feel that something is wrong deep down in your gut even though every argument for it is perfectly logical.

Consider the ministry of Jesus. He didn't preach, speak, or interact like an emotionless robot. He was passionate. He raised His voice, He rebuked, flipped tables, and even wept over the pain of others. Jesus was a man of passion and great emotion!

The verse you quote doesn't mean that we should never allow ourselves to feel our emotions, listen to our emotions, express our emotions, or care about emotion. What it is saying is that we have a sinful and deceitful nature at our core. But, for the born again believer, this isn't the case. God has given us a new heart, made of flesh, and a new Spirit...

Ezekiel 36:26
And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.

Today, Christians are known for being emotionless, heartless, cruel, unmerciful, unfeeling, and lacking common curtesy. And when we do express emotion, it is generally anger and disgust. I propose to you that Christians should find their hearts and allow their emotions to flow again. Yes, we should "feel" again. We should allow ourselves to be moved with mercy, compassion, righteous indignation towards injustice, and a passion for Jesus.

Those who wish to snuff out your emotions want you to be a robot... for a reason. Because once you eliminate someone's emotions... they are easier to control and to become pawns.

What I say to you, I say to all, FEEL!

I think this is another reason why churches don't like me. Not only do I speak up when I hear something stupid, I'm not above flipping a few tables if the stupidity continues.

Just make sure you don't stop and see your reflection in a pool of water or something.

[Aquila]

Michael Laufer stated :

“To deny someone access to a lifesaving medication is murder."

Some would discount this as a meaningless appeal to emotion. However, I highly doubt someone would argue that you shouldn't be so emotional when you're watching a loved one die simply because they couldn't afford the necessary care they needed to prolong or preserve their life. This is why Laufer, and men like him, feel opening up access to these drugs is absolutely necessary.

I find his statement to be quite true morally. To deny someone access to lifesaving medication simply because they don't have cold hard cash is indeed...murder. In fact, it is sacrificing a human life on the altar of financial profit.

There is a glaring deception that is infecting the minds on both the left and the right. On the left, they don't believe it is "murder" to abort a child. On the right, they don't think it is "murder" to deny that same child life saving medication if they were 33 years old and uninsured. We need a "gold standard" on the value of human life. One that goes beyond the paradigms of both the left and the right. One that is... Christian. A value of human life that takes the stand of being dedicated to teaching all of society that we are indeed our brother's keeper.