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03-03-2018, 09:04 PM
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Re: Billy Graham
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Originally Posted by Esaias
In other words, relativism. Nobody knows, and only those who don't know actually know.
Welcome to agnosticism 101.
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No. The ones who don't know are just being honest about not knowing.
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03-03-2018, 09:10 PM
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Re: Billy Graham
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Originally Posted by Aquila
I'm not talking about works, I'm talking about sincere, genuine, repentance.
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Again, says who? Says you? Bro, seriously, now you are the measure of who has sincere genuine repentance? This is all legalism, sincere genuine repentance my foot. What do you follow these jokers around with a clip board, is it some ecclesiastical 12 step program where you are the sponsor? Come on Chris, if they don't have the Apostolic Pentecostal Truth they are just twisting in the wind. God use to wink at man's ignorance but now He calls all men to repent. No side door to go through. Hell has enlarged herself, and the road that leads to it is a wide wide road. Many will be pouring through the gates.
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03-03-2018, 09:15 PM
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Re: Billy Graham
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Originally Posted by Aquila
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No. The ones who don't know are just being honest about not knowing.
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Why don't they know? Better question, is why are they wearing their religious ignorance like a badge piety?
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03-03-2018, 09:17 PM
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Re: Billy Graham
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Just something I noticed...people tend to always say:
"The Bible says...", " According to Scripture... ", "...is correct Bible teaching.", "True doctrine states...", " The Word of God tells us..."
And when they say these things, they often all disagree on the topic talked about. They are all caught up in a hyper spiritual psychological state in which they honestly think they are each the lucky and authoritative voice, knowing the absolute, infallible, unadulterated, truth. It's a bit amusing. I doubt they ever imagine stepping out of themselves and listening to themselves. I cannot count the number of times someone knew for absolute certain their position was God's own mind on a matter. I've done it too.lol
But in moments of clarity I realize that everyone simply accepts or formulates an interpretation. And each of these individuals will laugh at this idea and insist that they got their interpretation from the Word, and that it is more than just another view...while they all still disagree!
They can't all be right. And each will insist that they are the right one! And each will scream, "Sola Scriptura!" Lol
What if the false teachers are actually the ones that are always so certain of their position's absolute truth...and the true and honest teachers are the ones that will say, "Look, here's my take, and here's why, I don't know all there is on this, I could be wrong."?
Because at least they're being honest. Lol
What if there is more truth in our questions and honest uncertainties...than in all their dogmatic answers?
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Bro, the Bible isn't rocket science. 
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03-03-2018, 09:20 PM
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Re: Billy Graham
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Again, says who? Says you? Bro, seriously, now you are the measure of who has sincere genuine repentance? This is all legalism, sincere genuine repentance my foot. What do you follow these jokers around with a clip board, is it some ecclesiastical 12 step program where you are the sponsor? Come on Chris, if they don't have the Apostolic Pentecostal Truth they are just twisting in the wind. God use to wink at man's ignorance but now He calls all men to repent. No side door to go through. Hell has enlarged herself, and the road that leads to ut is wide wide road. Many will be pouring through the gates.
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That's my point, I'm not the measure genuine repentance for everyone, and neither are you, or anyone else. Only God can judge the thoughts and intents of a man's heart.
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03-03-2018, 09:22 PM
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Re: Billy Graham
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Bro, the Bible isn't rocket science. |
Said everyone who insists that they know absolute truth.
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03-03-2018, 09:24 PM
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Re: Billy Graham
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Bro, over 10 years ago you were in an ultraconservative Apostolic church? Well, maybe 10 years from now you won't even be a Christian?
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I don't presuppose where I'll be in ten years, but I pray God keeps me, God willing.
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03-03-2018, 09:30 PM
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Re: Billy Graham
Interesting text:
1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.
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03-03-2018, 09:32 PM
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Re: Billy Graham
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Said everyone who insists that they know absolute truth. |
As my old dad would answer that, then you know NOTHING!!!
When someone says there is no absolute truth, the statement itself has to be an absolute truth. Sorry, Bro, but you are a Christian snowflake 
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03-03-2018, 09:33 PM
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Re: Billy Graham
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Interesting text:
1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. |
Interesting you, because you haven't a clue to what it means.
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