Are All Oneness Christians Apostolic By Default?

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What's your thoughts? Does being Oneness and adhering to Acts 2:38 as the Plan of Salvation automatically define a Christian as Apostolic?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Holy Roller

What's your thoughts? Does being Oneness and adhering to Acts 2:38 as the Plan of Salvation automatically define a Christian as Apostolic?

In part. Apostolic simply is relating to or conforming to the teachings of the Apostles. There is more than the oneness and Acts 2:38 when it comes to daily living.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Holy Roller

What's your thoughts? Does being Oneness and adhering to Acts 2:38 as the Plan of Salvation automatically define a Christian as Apostolic?

No.

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Originally Posted by Esaias

No.

And why is that?

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The reason behind this question is really quite simple. In the past few years, I have been involved in revivals and services attended by Pentecostals with many similarities to traditional Apostolics: they are Oneness, baptize in Jesus' Name, believe Spirit baptism is evidenced by tongues, and believe in strong applications of both inward and outward holiness. Perhaps the only difference in their standards is their ladies generally cut their hair to around shoulder length (or a little longer), and perhaps the names of their churches (if that makes any sense). I attended a service last night preached by an Elder who believes in everything I mentioned above. He referred to himself as Oneness, Pentecostal, and Jesus' Name throughout his message. The word Apostolic was never uttered. Why is that one wonders?

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

Originally Posted by Holy Roller

The reason behind this question is really quite simple. In the past few years, I have been involved in revivals and services attended by Pentecostals with many similarities to traditional Apostolics: they are Oneness, baptize in Jesus' Name, believe Spirit baptism is evidenced by tongues, and believe in strong applications of both inward and outward holiness. Perhaps the only difference in their standards is their ladies generally cut their hair to around shoulder length (or a little longer), and perhaps the names of their churches (if that makes any sense). I attended a service last night preached by an Elder who believes in everything I mentioned above. He referred to himself as Oneness, Pentecostal, and Jesus' Name throughout his message. The word Apostolic was never uttered. Why is that one wonders?

Because he is a charismaric.

He would be better off being a Trinitarian Pentecostal with a strong sense of holiness and separation than to hold the Truth he has and live as loose as a whore strung out on crystal meth. Those people are more lost than 2 boys kissing!

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeBukaroo

Because he is a charismaric.

He would be better off being a Trinitarian Pentecostal with a strong sense of holiness and separation than to hold the Truth he has and live as loose as a whore strung out on crystal meth. Those people are more lost than 2 boys kissing!

I wouldn't call them Charismatic. They uphold many (if not all) beliefs as classical Apostolic Pentecostals, they just do not carry the label. I assure you, though, these people are not Charismatic. I can tell the difference, and they most assuredly are not.

[n david]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeBukaroo

Because he is a charismaric.

He would be better off being a Trinitarian Pentecostal with a strong sense of holiness and separation than to hold the Truth he has and live as loose as a whore strung out on crystal meth. Those people are more lost than 2 boys kissing!

Good grief.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

Originally Posted by Holy Roller

I wouldn't call them Charismatic. They uphold many (if not all) beliefs as classical Apostolic Pentecostals, they just do not carry the label. I assure you, though, these people are not Charismatic. I can tell the difference, and they most assuredly are not.

They most definitely are charismatic and are more charismatic than Apostolic. Look up the definition of charismatic and then look up the definition of Apostolic.

In a sense, all Apostolics are charismatic, but not all charismatic are Apostolic. These blokes are Oneness charismatics and I stand by my assertion that there is more hope for a Trinitarian Pentecostal who lives a life of holiness than there is for the man who holds the truth in unholiness.

[houston]

Larisa, How is there more hope? That doesn’t make sense.