Are All Oneness Christians Apostolic By Default? - Page 9

Originalist · #81 06-10-2018, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Holy Roller

What's your thoughts? Does being Oneness and adhering to Acts 2:38 as the Plan of Salvation automatically define a Christian as Apostolic?

What about Oneness believers who have a more "Roman Road" view of salvation? What about Trinitarians who hold to Acts 2:38 salvation?

BuckeyeBukaroo · #82 06-10-2018, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist

What about Oneness believers who have a more "Roman Road" view of salvation? What about Trinitarians who hold to Acts 2:38 salvation?

I read that you were A/G. Have you noticed that the holy living A/G and the holy living Apostolics have more in common than the run of the mill charismatics, regardless of their doctrinal persuasions?

Michael The Disciple · #83 06-10-2018, 02:04 PM

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That's like Brother Michael saying people are going to hell behind eschatology?

Can you QUOTE ME as saying that? If you can please do.

Evang.Benincasa · #84 06-10-2018, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeBukaroo

If I had realized this, I would have chosen a different name for this site. I wanted to incorporate "bukaroo" into my name. Maybe I should change it to "bubba".

Bubba? Aren’t you a female?

1ofthechosen · #85 06-10-2018, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Can you QUOTE ME as saying that? If you can please do.

I can only find this one, but you have equated eschatology with Acts 2:38 over and over again.

Start reading here:
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...2&postcount=13

This is all i could find, but this will work because im not the only one that has heard you allude to it.

BuckeyeBukaroo · #86 06-10-2018, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeBukaroo

I read that you were A/G. Have you noticed that the holy living A/G and the holy living Apostolics have more in common than the run of the mill charismatics, regardless of their doctrinal persuasions?

The Originalist.
What has been your observation regarding this subject?

Bro Flame · #87 06-10-2018, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeBukaroo

I am Apostolic through and through and would have it no other way. A soul must be born again of the water and the Spirit!

Still, I am not willing to say that the Bible states clearly that all Trinitarian Pentecostals are hopelessly lost. I believe that IF there is a way for GOD ALMIGHTY to save those folks, they will be saved.

I am willing to SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS that, without holiness, a person will go to hell and be lost for an eternity! The Bible is 100% clear on this.

I agree with your statement wholeheartedly.

There is an issue, however. Holiness, in the minds of many Christians, is broad and merely a statement of an inward change.

"The problem with holiness is, everyone defines it differently." I've heard strict holiness Apostolic believers say this. People can use the same scriptures, interpret them differently, and still genuinely believe they are living holiness as they believe the Word and the Spirit has revealed it to them.

The question is, however, are they listening to the right spirit?

BuckeyeBukaroo · #88 06-11-2018, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Holy Roller

I agree with your statement wholeheartedly.

There is an issue, however. Holiness, in the minds of many Christians, is broad and merely a statement of an inward change.

"The problem with holiness is, everyone defines it differently." I've heard strict holiness Apostolic believers say this. People can use the same scriptures, interpret them differently, and still genuinely believe they are living holiness as they believe the Word and the Spirit has revealed it to them.

The question is, however, are they listening to the right spirit?

The answer is no-- at least for the so-called, unholy Apostolic.

Amanah · #89 06-11-2018, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeBukaroo

The answer is no-- at least for the so-called, unholy Apostolic.

Romans 6:22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.

Holiness results in eternal life. So yes, it is holiness or hell.

Many equate standards with holiness. What do you do with standards that we have no scripture for? or that are subject to interpretation?

A perfect example of varying interpretation of scripture is head covering. Some argue for uncut hair, some argue for a cloth head covering such as a scarf. because of the difficulty with interpreting the passage, I don't see it as a heaven/hell issue. what do you think?

(my hair is uncut just FYI)

BuckeyeBukaroo · #90 06-11-2018, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

Romans 6:22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.

Holiness results in eternal life. So yes, it is holiness or hell.

Many equate standards with holiness. What do you do with standards that we have no scripture for? or that are subject to interpretation?

I believe that there isn't a standard that we do not have scripture for. It is up to us to explain the scriptures in a way that makes our standards look sensible-- but for the unbeliever, holiness will never be sensible.