Psychotropic Drugs in Religious Rituals

[Aquila]

Jesus, I know I've prayed to be healed of this for over 12 years now.

I believe you have a holy reason as to why you have not healed me.

I accept that my calling is to try to open the eyes of those who don't understand.

And I love them regardless.

[n david]

I don't hear this much talk about drugs among my secular acquaintances ...

Aquila, all these posts appear as though you're trying to convince yourself weed actually works and you're hoping someone here will cheer you on and validate what you have already made up in your mind.

I'm not you. What you do is what you do.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

I don't hear this much talk about drugs among my secular acquaintances ...

Aquila, all these posts appear as though you're trying to convince yourself weed actually works and you're hoping someone here will cheer you on and validate what you have already made up in your mind.

I'm not you. What you do is what you do.

I don't talk about this topic much outside of forums. Remember, this is being discussed in this detail because that is what this thread is about. And, I've only created one thread on it, and this one wasn't created by me. So, please don't think it's all any of us talk about all day.

Also, I'm not trying to convince myself of anything. I'm only responding to the posts of others.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Jesus is the only answer

Who created cannabis? Jesus did.

Every day, when we eat a meal, we thank God for His bounty, what He has created to sustain us.

If one finds relief from debilitating symptoms of a given condition through cannabis, or any other herbal/natural remedy, why shouldn't He get the glory for that?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Also, I'm not trying to convince myself of anything. I'm only responding to the posts of others.

In another thread, you responded to my posts #57 and #58 -- neither had anything to do with drugs, yet your response included a reference to weed in #57 and #58 was a youtube video about some medical marijuana user.

So it's not just you responding to others.

And the past 24-48 hours have been seemingly all about drugs here on AFF.

If you want to do it, do it.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

In another thread, you responded to my posts #57 and #58 -- neither had anything to do with drugs, yet your response included a reference to weed in #57 and #58 was a youtube video about some medical marijuana user.

So it's not just you responding to others.

And the past 24-48 hours have been seemingly all about drugs here on AFF.

If you want to do it, do it.

I'd have to go back and look at the topics. The references weren't out of nowhere. Most likely they were related to the subject of mass incarceration in America and my opinion that locking people up over a plant that makes you tingly, laugh a lot, and eat a full back of Doritos is just silly.

After legalization, one day we'll all think back and wonder... "Why all that pain and suffering...billions spent in policing weed, incarceration, criminal records, lives lost as police engage dealers on the black market... over a plant that is no worse than whisky, and appears to help treat symptoms relating to dozens of conditions?"

Even a growing number of law enforcement agencies are starting to think that their time and resources would be better spent pursuing violent criminals... not extremely calm people, wearing flowers, with the munchies.

And that's not to mention the intrusion on our privacy rights that the drug war as attributed to.

It's a big topic. It covers domestic policy, domestic spending, civil liberties, criminal justice reform, natural rights, new medical advancements and treatments, and the stigma that has been created in our culture over cannabis from the Nixon years. So, it might get peppered throughout various discussions on those topics. And as legalization appears to be on the horizon... it will be discussed even more.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

After legalization, one day we'll all think back and wonder... "Why all that pain and suffering...billions spent in policing weed, incarceration, criminal records, lives lost as police engage dealers on the black market... over a plant that is no worse than whisky, and appears to help treat symptoms relating to dozens of conditions?"

Because it's the law. We're a nation of laws. Without that, there would be chaos.

I hope it's never legalized for recreational use. I'm already having to deal with neighbors who claim to have a card, smoking inside their apartment and having it pour through all our vents.

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Esaias

And anyone who thinks marijuana isn't mildly hallucinogenic never had the good stuff.

Man i use to hear voices sometimes, they weren't strong hallucinations like PCP, or Acid but a hallucination and mind altered and a whole another plane none the less.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

Because it's the law. We're a nation of laws. Without that, there would be chaos.

Agreed, but not all laws are just. And, excessive laws and prohibitions only create a police state.

I hope it's never legalized for recreational use. I'm already having to deal with neighbors who claim to have a card, smoking inside their apartment and having it pour through all our vents.

They sound rather rude and inconsiderate. If they are telling the truth about having a card, they should discretely step outside. There's a growing line of etiquette in legalized cannabis culture. It is on the fringe, but it would argue that what these people are doing to you is terribly rude and would plead for you not to assume that the entire movement is as inconsiderate.

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I presented videos wherein cannabis oil eased a man's Parkinson's symptoms. And I presented several videos wherein children with epilepsy ceased having seizures, after all other medications had failed, as a result of cannabis oil. So say what you're saying is like closing your eyes, putting your fingers in your ears, and refusing to see a reality that is right in front of you.

If you can do that... how can I trust you?

I lived it bro I don't need no case study for that, I was a case study! The psychology books they built off were written by Freud on his journey (a case study if you will) of him being on cocaine. Anything at the beginning can have, good effects. But overtime it will change on you and won't produce the same results. That's how the devil tricks you and enslaves you btw.

Chris get full of the Holy Ghost all these substances are the counterfeit to keep you away from the real thing. Once again I've spent a hundreds of thousands of dollars on drugs. And when I got the Holy Ghost for real, when I truly repented and turned away from that lifestyle and turned against it, i realized that all the money I wasted gave me only a pinch of what God can do. In conclusion I knew the purpose of drugs. They are the devils counterfeit of the real thing. He is only trying to enslave you and keep you away from the real thing. Because he knows in the day you truly do, he will lose all power over you through his weak counterfeit.

But now look up long term effects on all this stuff, because it will change on you. It will work at first and then it will cease having the desired effects. Them just now testing they have this cover to hide behind because they havent done extended testing. Here in is the strength of what I'm saying I lived it, tried it, and I guarantee you a 1000 times it doesn't work! Maybe for a time , but its only temporary! The only thing permanent is God, you have nothing else to depend on.