Psychotropic Drugs in Religious Rituals

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by houston

Wt_?

He's saying hes been sent with the message fat blunts and good will toward men. To be a message of the goodness of cannabis as the second coming of the prophet Bob Marley! Shabba! Mike talks of Yah, Aquila talks of Jah..

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by houston

Yes. Seriously. Anyone know where he’s located?

Ohio.

Threatening suicide on a Internet forum is no laughing matter.
While Aquila’s history has always leaned towards attention getting drama. He has pushed it with threatening suicide.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Sure thing bro. If Jesus doesn't heal me, and I shoot myself to end this, will you take care of my kids? I'd appreciate that.

Chris, so you would leave your children?
Leave your children for random people on the internet to care for them?
Chris, think about what you just posted? You will shoot yourself. Do you own a firearm? Do your children live with you? Would you shoot yourself where your children could find you? Chris, no matter where you did this act, they would then have to live with your suicide. Therefore you would be the reason for their PTSD.
Would you want them to go through the trauma of you killing yourself? Also, what if your children read your post stating that you would kill yourself? Where is your girlfriend? Does she read what you post here?

[Amanah]

At this point I'm praying for Chris, and am actually concerned for his welfare.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

He's saying hes been sent with the message fat blunts and good will toward men. To be a message of the goodness of cannabis as the second coming of the prophet Bob Marley! Shabba! Mike talks of Yah, Aquila talks of Jah..

That's a bit of an exaggeration. lol

I'm not talking about recreational use. I've tried my best to only discuss the possible merits to using cannabis medicinally. And I didn't come with this message, I'm just commenting on a thread created by someone else.

Why would you say this?

[Amanah]

Aquila/Chris, you threaten suicide and then come back like nothing happened, seriously, what is the deal?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Ohio.

Threatening suicide on a Internet forum is no laughing matter.
While Aquila’s history has always leaned towards attention getting drama. He has pushed it with threatening suicide.

I never threatened to commit suicide. I just asked, if I did, would you take care of my kids? The point is, you have no skin in the game. You're just a talking stuffed shirt. You can type here, or get in a pulpit, condemn everyone who seeks medicinal help from any and every source. You can insult them, slander them, distort everything they are simply trying to share with you, and argue that God heals everyone all the time... and if they end up hurting themselves or others because they listen to you and don't seek medication... you loose nothing.

Besides, why would you can authorities who would only psycho-analyze, medicate, and then perhaps suggest many of the very medications you've condemned? LOL Is it because when the rubber meets the road, you don't trust your Jesus? If you really believe what you say you believe... why not offer some prayer?

But it doesn't matter because I'm not going to do anything crazy. But I will warn you of this... you use a lot of words, words that are designed to hurt, not heal. And I'll be honest, there was a time in my life when if I were sitting under your pastoral care... I would have probably ended it. You don't know anything that's going on in people's private lives. You don't know where they're at. One day, your words could trigger the unthinkable. I'm not asking for groveling apologies or for you to become Mr. Rogers. I'm only offering some thoughts. Just think about it and keep it in the back of your head. Because one day... you might realize that you were dealing with something far more serious than you could have ever imagined.

In this thread, I'm only saying that there are studies, individual testimonies, and growing consensus among the medical community that would disagree with your notions that there is absolutely no medical benefit in many of the substances you're condemning as you peddle fear, ignorance, and superstition.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Chris, so you would leave your children?
Leave your children for random people on the internet to care for them?
Chris, think about what you just posted? You will shoot yourself. Do you own a firearm? Do your children live with you? Would you shoot yourself where your children could find you? Chris, no matter where you did this act, they would then have to live with your suicide. Therefore you would be the reason for their PTSD.
Would you want them to go through the trauma of you killing yourself? Also, what if your children read your post stating that you would kill yourself? Where is your girlfriend? Does she read what you post here?

EB, I'm smarter than that.

Besides, PTSD doesn't exist, remember? It's only in people's heads. It has nothing to do with a change in brain chemistry. It's all in our heads. We're faking. We're weak. We just don't have what it takes, right? We just need to get over it. And if we loved Jesus enough, we'd stop whining about bad dreams. It's all in our heads. Wasn't that what you said?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Aquila/Chris, you threaten suicide and then come back like nothing happened, seriously, what is the deal?

English Amanah, I never threatened anything. I only implied that if I were to do something unthinkable, would EB be there? His mouth is writing checks he can't cash. He simply has no skin the game. He could discourage someone on the edge from seeking immediate help, condemning any thought of looking into medication, and then go home and have some coffee, and just blame it all on the person's lack of faith if they can't cope any more.

Besides Amanah, EB has informed us all that PTSD doesn't exist. It's not real. It's just people being weak. And seeking treatment is un-Christian, and makes someone guilty of sorcery. Let's just stick with that premise. I mean, he's never wrong, is he?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Amanah

At this point I'm praying for Chris, and am actually concerned for his welfare.

Really? I'm not so sure of that.

In fact, I'm not so sure that any of you care about anyone's welfare.

So far, anything I've said about medication and people finding possible relief for conditions they can't cope with has been seriously distorted way outside of the bounds of what I truly said, and condemned. Why would anyone who cares about anyone's welfare do that?

But I appreciate your concern. Too bad it isn't enough concern to speak up when you see obvious distortions and slander about a topic so important.

I do believe in healing. I've seen it. A man was even healed one night before my very own eyes in the middle of preaching. He had suffered from back problems for years. I was preaching a message, "When God Seems Cruel", and I took my text from Job. I got to the point of the story wherein the messengers had just reported to Job about all his losses, the Bible states...

"...Then Job arose, and rent his mantle, and shaved his head, and fell down upon the ground, and... worshipped,..."

At that, the man stood up with tears streaming down his face and I watched as he raised his hands, and started dancing. Others joined in, and I just kept preaching. I didn't lay hands on him or anything. Just preached. I actually didn't know about the fulness of what he experienced until after the service when he approached me.

I've seen people healed. But, for some reason, God hasn't healed me. So, I just try to manage, wait, and pray.

You know, most authorities would say that discouraging an individual who might need medication from seeking medication is a form of spiritual abuse.