Brother Lee Stoneking's Preaching

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Priceless i read that and heard Stonekings voice!! Lol

Did you listen to the entire sermon?

[Scott Pitta]

Not sure if I should post anything or not.

Stoneking is better at telling mystical stories than he is at interpreting New Testament Greek.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

Not sure if I should post anything or not.

Stoneking is better at telling mystical stories than he is at interpreting New Testament Greek.

He is pretty aggressive when he does it.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Bro, you have the Neo-Phariseeism by David Wasmundt, Ethel Goss claiming that they weren't conservative. You recently posted that when you bring your wife to Pentecostal churches she is treated badly. CC1, you fly under the radar because you are a male? You said that, but your wife cannot, because of what old tyme Pentecostal women look like. That whole thread was to prove what? How old tyme Pentecostals don't evenaglisze their backsliders? Strange views? Mine? What would they be? Because I sure don't beat a drum concerning these so called strange views.

EB, my thread on how my wife has been treated visiting UPC churches, in particular her home church, was to see what people thought about it and I pretty much got the variety of opinion I thought I would with folks like you being snarky and if I recall correctly saying she shouldn't attend even though her family still attends that church and of course always wanted her to go. Plus the latest incident just a few weeks ago wasn't even at a church service. IF you had read you would have seen it was at a funeral at the church.

My point was also to get folks to think about how visitors are treated at their church and yes in particular exUPC ones in UPC churches. My point also being folks should not assume someone has forsaken God because they are no longer old time Pentecost and it is insulting to act like they have. If my wife's church really wanted to "save" her from her current church / beliefs they would have been much better served by acting differently and having a genuine dialogue with her over time.

I also mentioned that there is no angst over this in my household because my wife has always been of the thought of having "been there done that" when it comes to the UPC and she has not believed that way for decades. I will say that in the early years of being ex it was how she was treated that firmed up her disconnection from the UPC.

I, as you pointed out, fly under the radar being clean shaven with short hair so I do enjoy visiting my heritage. I believe the vast majority are sincere, love God, and I enjoy fellowshipping with them. Particularly since I look like them and they aren't trying to drag me to the altar or interrorgate me about my state of happiness!

Of course trying to answer your questions is impossible because you never accept anything I say and always assign some ulterior motive to me.

[Apostolic1ness]

Originally Posted by CC1

EB, my thread on how my wife has been treated visiting UPC churches, in particular her home church, was to see what people thought about it and I pretty much got the variety of opinion I thought I would with folks like you being snarky and if I recall correctly saying she shouldn't attend even though her family still attends that church and of course always wanted her to go. Plus the latest incident just a few weeks ago wasn't even at a church service. IF you had read you would have seen it was at a funeral at the church.

My point was also to get folks to think about how visitors are treated at their church and yes in particular exUPC ones in UPC churches. My point also being folks should not assume someone has forsaken God because they are no longer old time Pentecost and it is insulting to act like they have. If my wife's church really wanted to "save" her from her current church / beliefs they would have been much better served by acting differently and having a genuine dialogue with her over time.

I also mentioned that there is no angst over this in my household because my wife has always been of the thought of having "been there done that" when it comes to the UPC and she has not believed that way for decades. I will say that in the early years of being ex it was how she was treated that firmed up her disconnection from the UPC.

I, as you pointed out, fly under the radar being clean shaven with short hair so I do enjoy visiting my heritage. I believe the vast majority are sincere, love God, and I enjoy fellowshipping with them. Particularly since I look like them and they aren't trying to drag me to the altar or interrorgate me about my state of happiness!

Of course trying to answer your questions is impossible because you never accept anything I say and always assign some ulterior motive to me.

Hope you don't mind me butting in here, but I would like to offer some info concerning the thought of apostolic believing if someone leaves old time Pentecost they have walked away from God.
As an apostolic Pentecostal I can tell you we better all feel that way towards people that have walked away from "old time Pentecost" but this is because we are convinced the scriptures are true and immovable. We generally call someone that's walks away from Pentecost a backslider, and that's for a reason. We should never except the notion a person has a relationship with God and is full of his spirit that is in a backsliden state and is deceived by false doctrine. I dont want to be hurtful but I sure hope no Old time pentecostals compromise their message to sympathise with those that have walked away from what we know as truth.

[houston]

*yawn

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by CC1

EB, my thread on how my wife has been treated visiting UPC churches, in particular her home church, was to see what people thought about it and I pretty much got the variety of opinion I thought I would with folks like you being snarky and if I recall correctly saying she shouldn't attend even though her family still attends that church and of course always wanted her to go. Plus the latest incident just a few weeks ago wasn't even at a church service. IF you had read you would have seen it was at a funeral at the church.

Why attend? If she gets treated badly, why put her through it? Isn't that what I said? You painted for us a picture that I wouldn't put Sister B through, so I sure wouldn't advise you to do it with Sister CC1. Hey, one wrestling match with the Orthodox priest, Sister B, and I was all it took. But, like I said before, UPC are way cooler to their backsliders than Sedevacantists and Eastern Orthodoxy. Try a ROCOR priest out for size, and his congregants.

Originally Posted by CC1

My point was also to get folks to think about how visitors are treated at their church and yes in particular exUPC ones in UPC churches. My point also being folks should not assume someone has forsaken God because they are no longer old time Pentecost and it is insulting to act like they have. If my wife's church really wanted to "save" her from her current church / beliefs they would have been much better served by acting differently and having a genuine dialogue with her over time.

Also please remember that I said that all religions "all" do the same. My point is that we need to accept it, and not hold a grudge, or feel INSULTED. We left them, they still remain the same. Winning us by how? By them becoming like us? Because you and I know that you and Sister CC1 aren't going to do that, so what do you expect them to do? You aren't new converts, you are old salts and if we think they are going to do back flips for us, then we are insulting them. Hey, the knife cuts both ways bro.

Originally Posted by CC1

I also mentioned that there is no angst over this in my household because my wife has always been of the thought of having "been there done that" when it comes to the UPC and she has not believed that way for decades. I will say that in the early years of being ex it was how she was treated that firmed up her disconnection from the UPC.

Hooray, hooray, therefore the other team knows this, but believe that you all just need a good dose of the Holy Ghost to get you back. The Greeks, Russians, and Romans just tell you flat out that you are lost as the Jungle Room in Graceland. You just need to shed the heresy and get right. No dragging to the altar to blow snot bubbles and tears.

Originally Posted by CC1

I, as you pointed out, fly under the radar being clean shaven with short hair so I do enjoy visiting my heritage. I believe the vast majority are sincere, love God, and I enjoy fellowshipping with them. Particularly since I look like them and they aren't trying to drag me to the altar or interrorgate me about my state of happiness!

But, you are a better man than I Gunga Din, because if they give Sister B, the what for, then I don't go no more. My heritage is rich with Roman Catholicism. A picture of Catherine of Siena, Caterina di Giacomo di Benincasa in the foyer of the old house. But, I don't go and visit their churches. My father the atheist would go and even dip into the holy water, and I would give him the eyeball. Compromising atheist!

Originally Posted by CC1

Of course trying to answer your questions is impossible because you never accept anything I say and always assign some ulterior motive to me.

I accept you won't sing in church. I accept you may sing in the shower.
I have to look at your Neo-Phariseeism Book by David M. Wasmundt as an avatar, and know where you are at. I mean what am I supposed to think when that is someone's avatar?

[Apostolic1ness]

Originally Posted by houston

*yawn

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[n david]

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david