Non-A/P Pastor Commits Suicide

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

Jihad Pranksters


"DID YOU SEE AMHEDS FACE WHEN HIS BOMB WENT OFF 10 SECONDS LATE????"

LOL

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeBukaroo

That was going to be my point.

There is a school of thought that pretty much has people either walking around nervous about dying before asking forgiveness for every sin or walking around a little self-righteous (or at a bare minimum unaware of just how easy it is to sin).

Even as Born Again Heaven Bound Believers in the Liberating Power of Jesus Name, one of our thoughts can be a sin.

Just. One. Thought.

So if you die before you have the chance of asking forgiveness for that thought which was a sin that you didn't even realize was a sin but just because you didn't realize it was a sin that doesn't make it less sinful so if you DIE without having REPENTED (having godly sorrow, right?) for that one single thought-- what happens to you?

I'm more along the school of thought that believes that all our sins were atoned for at the cross. God's elect (however one wishes to define them) are "forgiven" and "it is finished". When Christ died, all our sins were yet future, so the argument that sins after salvation are different doesn't sit well with me. For God's elect, unless they become reprobate backsliders, our sins are forgiven. Now, our sins do come with consequences, even severe consequences in this life. In addition, we can lose reward in eternity, and still be saved, even if it is yet so as by fire.

[TakingDominion]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I'm more along the school of thought that believes that all our sins were atoned for at the cross. God's elect (however one wishes to define them) are "forgiven" and "it is finished". When Christ died, all our sins were yet future, so the argument that sins after salvation are different doesn't sit well with me. For God's elect, unless they become reprobate backsliders, our sins are forgiven. Now, our sins do come with consequences, even severe consequences in this life. In addition, we can lose reward in eternity, and still be saved, even if it is yet so as by fire.

If all our sins were forgiven at the cross, what is the point of repentance? Especially initial repentance of a new believer...

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by TakingDominion

If all our sins were forgiven at the cross, what is the point of repentance? Especially initial repentance of a new believer...

When we obey the Gospel, and we are born again, we enter into that which was secured by the cross.

We confess and repent of any sin so that sins work is stopped cold before it carries us away into reprobate apostasy by grieving the Spirit.

At least, that's my understanding.

[consapente89]

Of you are not walking with Jesus you are lost. If you are walking with Jesus, he convicts you when there is unrepented sin. The blood is only available to those who are walking in the light.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by n david

"""Inland Hills Church grieves with heavy hearts as our Lead Pastor Andrew Stoecklein was welcomed into Heaven on Saturday night after battling depression and anxiety."""


I don't believe one can take their own life and still be saved.

I think you have gone beyond scripture.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I think you have gone beyond scripture.

Please explain.