Donald Trump 666 to usher in the Mark of the Beast

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by houston

Gave a ride to an Orthodox Jew recently. Asked him when will messiah come. He said they don’t focus on that much. Don’t believe in hell... really. Focus is on being a good person. Or whatever. Nice guy. Tipped well.

I see the Sadducees are still with us...

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by RachelRose

I like the house church model Aquila talks about.

Presently there is discussion in the "Aerialist" thread.

1) Believers met as churches on the first day of the week. However what day is this? Sunday is the last day of the week.
Not on my calendar. Sunday is the first day of the week.
2) When believers came together as churches on the first day of the week they met in houses.
Not always. They sometimes met in the synagogue or the Temple
3)When they came together in people’s homes their corporate worship and sharing together was completely open and spontaneous with no one leading from the front. The early believers didn’t have anything that even approximated a ‘church service’.
Nope. I guess you missed that part of the Bible where Paul preached so long that someone fell out of a window and died.
4) As part of these proceedings they ate the Lord's Supper as a full meal; indeed, as their main meal of the day, commonly referring to it as the love-feast.
Can you give me a link to this?
My understanding is that they did not celebrate the Lord's Supper or eat, with every service.
5) They understood each church to be an extended family unit (the idea of churches being institutions or organizations would have been totally alien to them), and practiced non-hierarchical plural male leadership that had arisen from within the church it would subsequently lead. This indigenous eldership (elder, pastor/ shepherd, bishop/overseer being synonymous terms in the New Testament) sought to lead consensually wherever possible, and was understood to be purely functional and not in any way positional.

Then why were different (more stringent) requirements given for those in "leadership" positions?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by RachelRose

I like the house church model Aquila talks about.

Presently there is discussion in the "Aerialist" thread.

1) Believers met as churches on the first day of the week. However what day is this? Sunday is the last day of the week.
2) When believers came together as churches on the first day of the week they met in houses.
3)When they came together in people’s homes their corporate worship and sharing together was completely open and spontaneous with no one leading from the front. The early believers didn’t have anything that even approximated a ‘church service’.
4) As part of these proceedings they ate the Lord's Supper as a full meal; indeed, as their main meal of the day, commonly referring to it as the love-feast.
5) They understood each church to be an extended family unit (the idea of churches being institutions or organizations would have been totally alien to them), and practiced non-hierarchical plural male leadership that had arisen from within the church it would subsequently lead. This indigenous eldership (elder, pastor/ shepherd, bishop/overseer being synonymous terms in the New Testament) sought to lead consensually wherever possible, and was understood to be purely functional and not in any way positional.

Where do you attend church again?

[houston]

Rachel Rainbow referred to a love feast. Chris uses that term. Hmm.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Stephen Mansfield says that endorsing Donald Trump by using laudatory language like comparing him to Cyrus, or saying he was divining ordained borders on sin, listen to his podcast in the link:

https://stephenmansfield.tv/prophetic-distance/

There is a long tradition of religion influencing politics in American history. It is largely to be welcomed. Yet in the recent presidential election, some religious leaders were so full-throated in endorsing Donald Trump that they nearly became part of his PR staff. There is a better, more noble, even holier way to go. In this podcast, Stephen describes the virtues of maintaining prophetic distance as an antidote to the excesses of the recent U.S. presidential election.

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Trump was introduced to many issues he hadn’t cared about before, at least on the level of theology or moral principle. Of course, a great deal of this was politically motivated (even if you entertain the hope that some of it might have settled somewhere in his soul). But here’s the interesting thing: Trump did not make many religious claims about himself. That was done more by the religious leaders around him. Trump has never, as far as I know, claimed to be born again. But James Dobson tweeted that he knew the person who had led Trump to Christ. And Jerry Falwell Jr.’s introduction at Liberty literally compared him to Jesus and Lincoln. These religious leaders made claims far outside what Trump himself was saying.

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct...hristians.html

Trump as Cyrus, and now we just have to wait for the rebuilding of the temple. Is Benjamin Netanyahu the Ezra? Is Jared Kushner the Nehemiah?

Is Nikki Haley the Evita Peron? Is John Hagee Aang the Last Airbender?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Donald Trump = 666 Pope Francis =666

666 + 666 = 1332

2018 - 1332 = 686

686 x 3 = 2058

[Evang.Benincasa]

[Evang.Benincasa]

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

My Catholic aunt in Tennessee asked if I heard of this Mark guy. She said it’s interesting. I looked him up... I didn’t know what to reply without sounding mean. So I didn’t...

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Who knew God was an American a true Patriot.. SMH