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06-14-2007, 10:32 AM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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I was in prison ministry for a time so I feel that I can give some advice to those seeking to go into ministry. My main piece of advice would be to be prepared to have the things you preach attacked by the enemy of your soul. Those in ministry have to deal with spiritual warfare on a level that most saints never see. Be prepared for the battle. Your weaknesses will be magnified by the forces of darkness against you. Stay prayed up and be accountable to those who have gone before you in ministry. More than likely they have faced and won the battles that await you and they will be a valuable source of direction and strength for you.
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06-14-2007, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Hey Bro,
What do you wish you would have known?
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When I started out, I wished I had known to not allow certain saints to occupy my mind so much who simply would not receive from God and grow. It often drove me bananas to try to help certain folks get hold of God when they incessantly refused, but attended every service. I became so concerned that I realized I was starting to abandon the ministry to others who did desire to grow and go into all God had to offer.
I had to settle with the fact that my job was to throw out the seed and each person was responsibile for it after that, not me. I had to settle with the fact that some are 30, some 60 and others 100 fold christians. I was so badly wanting EVERYONE to grow in Christ!
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06-14-2007, 10:37 AM
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Another thing that is so important, which Daniel Alicea alluded to as well, is FULLNESS OF THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT!
All the gifts and talents are sounding brass and tinkling cymbals without the FRUIT.
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06-14-2007, 11:19 AM
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again I am not a minister but as this was mentioned on another thread it made me want to ask.
What about the threat of putting yourself on a pedastel. As in the role of an authoritarian wouldn't one want to remain extremely humble as to not become an idol to some?
this probably doesn't make sense
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06-14-2007, 11:21 AM
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A song a friend of mine wrote goes...
A Jesus man is a lonely man, and he walks all alone
A Jesus man is a hated man, with no place to call home
But a Jesus man is a powerful man, and all he's gotta do is just speak
A Jesus man, a Jesus man, is what I wanna be
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06-14-2007, 11:28 AM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Stockton, California
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
On point ... Pianoman ... my dad epitomized everyone one of these.
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What happened to you?
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06-14-2007, 11:29 AM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Stockton, California
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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown
A song a friend of mine wrote goes...
A Jesus man is a lonely man, and he walks all alone
A Jesus man is a hated man, with no place to call home
But a Jesus man is a powerful man, and all he's gotta do is just speak
A Jesus man, a Jesus man, is what I wanna be
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This ain't like Jesus...
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06-14-2007, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Kutless
again I am not a minister but as this was mentioned on another thread it made me want to ask.
What about the threat of putting yourself on a pedastel. As in the role of an authoritarian wouldn't one want to remain extremely humble as to not become an idol to some?
this probably doesn't make sense
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It certainly does make sense. It is tempting to abuse the position as a minister to enjoy "lording it" over God's heritage. Some have and do. I believe it is so vital to ever rebuke the spirit of pride. I believe the Lord's prayer covers all the vital elements of prayer, including the need to not stray from the narrow path and be led into temptation on the broad road that leads to destruction. "Lord, keep me humble, and do not let me stray from righteousness."
Some like the alleged "limelight" of being seen before people. That is why Paul told Timothy to lay hands suddenly on no man for ordination, and to instead KNOW THOSE who labour among us.
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06-14-2007, 11:38 AM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
1. A pastor would do well to gain a basic understanding of Christian sociology and psychology.
Most would do well with some Bible College classes too...
2. Less than 50% of pastors are full-time ministers.
I think this is good in the fact that it seems most of those pastors who are full time seem to lost perspective on the working family... Some full time Pastors need to go back to work to experiance it
again...
3. Peer pressure exists in ministry. The pressure to perform is intense.
Keeping up with the Jones is more like it... There seems to be a class society in the Ministry..
4. Watching God work and mature new Christians is joy in action.
This is true in all cases...
5. Ministry is one of the most exhausting and fulfilling experiences on earth.
This is the irony of ministry...
PP
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Imo...only of course...
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06-14-2007, 11:41 AM
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Beautiful are the feet......
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A church usually takes on the persona of the pastor. They emulate his actions, personality, and spirituality.
Folks will naturally put their pastor on a pedestal. IMO, a pastor should counter that with humility and grace.
When a pastor starts enjoying the pedestal too much, is when problems start happening!
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