Things You May Not Know About Ministry

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by revrandy

This ain't like Jesus...

Why not??

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

A church usually takes on the persona of the pastor. They emulate his actions, personality, and spirituality.

Folks will naturally put their pastor on a pedestal. IMO, a pastor should counter that with humility and grace.

When a pastor starts enjoying the pedestal too much, is when problems start happening!

This is very true....also the Pastor's wife enjoying the Power pedestal can cause many problems...

There are some churches that love the Ministry...and some that worship the ministry... I've been in and seen both....

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

A song a friend of mine wrote goes...


A Jesus man is a lonely man, and he walks all alone
A Jesus man is a hated man, with no place to call home
But a Jesus man is a powerful man, and all he's gotta do is just speak
A Jesus man, a Jesus man, is what I wanna be

This is pretty good.

Ministry is very lonely at times.

Which leads me to my number 6.

6. Be friendly with God's people, but be careful not to be too friendly. Familiarity breeds contempt.

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

A song a friend of mine wrote goes...


A Jesus man is a lonely man, and he walks all alone
A Jesus man is a hated man, with no place to call home
But a Jesus man is a powerful man, and all he's gotta do is just speak
A Jesus man, a Jesus man, is what I wanna be

Originally Posted by revrandy

This ain't like Jesus...

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

Why not??

Bump for REVRANDY

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

Why not??

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

This is pretty good.

Ministry is very lonely at times.

Which leads me to my number 6.

6. Be friendly with God's people, but be careful not to be too friendly. Familiarity breeds contempt.

Jesus was extremely social....had twelve men with him most of the time.. not a loner... spent a lot of time at folks houses... and travelled frequently...

the reason familiarity breeds contempt is because people find out who you really are.... and if there's contempt there might be reason for you to change...

I don't know if I really believe this anymore...

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Jesus was extremely social....had twelve men with him most of the time.. not a loner... spent a lot of time at folks houses... and travelled frequently...

the reason familiarity breeds contempt is because people find out who you really are.... and if there's contempt there might be reason for you to change...

I don't know if I really believe this anymore...

Jesus definitely had times of aloneness and even lonliness.

[mfblume]

A pastor should also HIGHLY ESTEEM the opinions of biblical scholars. There really has been too much, "All I need is God and the Bible" sort of talk from self-proclaimed preachers who spout out utter nonsense. This does not mean we accept everything a scholar produces to us, but it is wisdom to receive a multitude of counsellors.

One preacher spoke of Isaiah having preached to Sodom and Gomorrah, because he read this:

Isa 1:9-11 KJV Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah. (10) Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah. (11) To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

Sodom and Gomorrah rose and fell long before Isaiah was born, back in the days of Abraham! And a preacher mistook the reference above to refer to an idea that Isaiah actually preached in those cities. Had he researched the passage and observed some ideas from a good commentary or scholarly work, he would have realized how incorrect he was.

The idea that commentaries and references are nonsense is rife amongst many apostolic ministers, but is ridiculous in actuality. I send the motion that minister should use some good years in bible school.

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

This is pretty good.

Ministry is very lonely at times.

Which leads me to my number 6.

6. Be friendly with God's people, but be careful not to be too friendly. Familiarity breeds contempt.

I thought so too. It really is a good ole "Suthern gospil" song.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by mfblume

A pastor shoudl also HIGHLY ESTEEM the opinions of biblical scholars. There really has been too much, "All I need is God and the Bible" sort of talk from self-proclaimed preachers who spout out utter nonsense.

One preacher spoke of Isaiah having preached to Sodom and Gomorrah, because he read this:



Sodom and Gomorrah rose and fell long before Isaiah was born, back in the days of Abraham! And a preacher mistook the reference above to refer to an idea that Isaiah actually preached in those cities. Had he researched the passage and observed some ideas from a good commentary or scholarly work, he would have realized how incorrect he was.

The idea that commentaries and references are nonsense is rife amongst many apostolic ministers, but is ridiculous in actuality. I send the motion that minister should use some good years in bible school.

I agree, as long as it is accredited.

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Jesus definitely had times of aloneness and even lonliness.

I'm not saying there weren't times.. but he did travel extensively with the twelve... went to sinners houses and dinners... went to wedding parties...

Part of the reason folks can't get along socialibly is that they will see you for who you are...
and you them...