why evangelics love Israel

[Amanah]

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

*sorry for typo in title, should be:

Why evangelical Christians Love Israel

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recap:
basically we need to support Israel so Christ can return, we can get out of here, and Jews can go thru tribulation, with 1/3 being saved.


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Wow Sister I was just going to post this.

Thank you.

Brother Irvin Baxter Jr is in this video.

[Michael The Disciple]

The real reason Christians love Israel.

Romans 11:28

28As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

And some Christians like Irvin Baxter are actively working to be witnesses of the coming of Jesus Christ to the Jewish people that they might be saved. Something the Apostolic Church believed would happen in the future.

2 Cor 3:14-16

14But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. 15But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. 16Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

The real reason Christians love Israel.

Romans 11:28

28As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

And some Christians like Irvin Baxter are actively working to be witnesses of the coming of Jesus Christ to the Jewish people that they might be saved. Something the Apostolic Church believed would happen in the future.

2 Cor 3:14-16

14But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. 15But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. 16Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

Mike, therefore you teach that CONVERTS (which every single one is) are all beloved of Jesus Christ? Mike, not one of their ancestors crucified Christ, not one of their ancestors were sitting at the foot of Mount Sinai when Moses came down the mountain. By the proclamation in Ezra 2:59-62 they couldn't possibly serve in the temple services, or building. Mike, there is ONLY one Israel, and that is Apostolic baptized in Jesus name, filled with the Holy Ghost. You have Jesus Christ bestowing love on a group that couldn't trace their lineage back to Zerubbabel if they had a flashlight and a laser beam.
Modern Talmudic Jews hate Christianity, and hate Jesus Christ, no matter how much you use your made up Hebrew to change His name.

[aegsm76]

EB - I keep hearing this refrain that the Jews today are not the Jews of the Bible.
Many years ago, I went over that and settled that in my mind.
So, just as a whim I did an internet search and came up with this, which was the same argument that I had settled many years ago.
link
https://www.oneforisrael.org/bible-b...ended-khazars/
Is this what you keep referring to?

By referring, I mean to the book mentioned in the article.

Here is another link
https://phys.org/news/2018-09-ashken...cientists.html

and another
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/khaza...sted-1.5253397

[Michael The Disciple]

Dom:

Mike, therefore you teach that CONVERTS (which every single one is) are all beloved of Jesus Christ?

Romans 11:28

28As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

There exists a nation at this moment called Israel. You assume not even ONE of its inhabitants are of Israel. The scriptures speak much about Israel being in existence when Christ comes.

Preterists like yourself believe Jesus came in 70ad so I realize its hard for you to think of these scriptures having a future fulfillment.

Mike, there is ONLY one Israel, and that is Apostolic baptized in Jesus name, filled with the Holy Ghost.

Paul an apostle of Jesus Christ was baptized into the name of Yeshua and filled with the Holy Ghost. He was part of the Church.

AND YET.......he foresaw the people of Israel who were blinded in his time as one day coming out of the darkness and into the light.

So had you asked Paul "is there such a thing as Israel" he would have an answer for you that perhaps would give you a better understanding.

[Michael The Disciple]

Thanks Aegsm!

[Michael The Disciple]

What does it mean for a Christian to "support" Israel?

Mainly it means they support the right of Israel to EXIST. I support Israel. I have never been there or even have a desire to visit there. My wife has given offerings to Messianic Jews.

Does that make us "Zionists"? I pray regularly for Messianic believers. Also for the salvation of the majority who are lost. Paul did the same.

[Michael The Disciple]

Dom,

What is the video by Singer supposed to teach us? We know that the modern Jews reject Yeshua. We get it. Do we still love them for the Fathers sake? Yes

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

EB - I keep hearing this refrain that the Jews today are not the Jews of the Bible.
Many years ago, I went over that and settled that in my mind.
So, just as a whim I did an internet search and came up with this, which was the same argument that I had settled many years ago.
link
https://www.oneforisrael.org/bible-b...ended-khazars/
Is this what you keep referring to?

By referring, I mean to the book mentioned in the article.

Here is another link
https://phys.org/news/2018-09-ashken...cientists.html

and another
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/khaza...sted-1.5253397

Both articles do not refute what is outlined in Ezra and Nehemiah. Sorry, but Khazars or Chinese converts to Medival Talmudic Judaism is unbiblical. The Rabbis trust in your not knowing the subject, therefore you legitimize conversions which Ezra, Nehemiah, and Zerubabel would of vehemitly rejected.