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Old 06-03-2019, 06:03 PM
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Re: To Beard or Not to Beard, That is The Question

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No I didn’t. Had nothing to do with that situation why he left.
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That had nothing to do with him backsliding.
As I figured, the beard had nothing to do with his leaving church. Why mislead people and post this?

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Another time I had young man in the youth group that wanted to be used. I told him he needed to shave if he wanted to be used. He didn’t agree didn’t shave and eventually backslid.

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Yah it is sad that people will be so stubborn not shave and let them keep them from being used.
The person prohibiting a bearded man from being used is in more danger than the bearded man -- if the prohibition causes a stumbling block to the bearded man.
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:06 PM
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As I figured, the beard had nothing to do with his leaving church. Why mislead people and post this?

The person prohibiting a bearded man from being used is in more danger than the bearded man -- if the prohibition causes a stumbling block to the bearded man.
How about prohibiting a guy with black painted fingernails on the platform? I'm serious.
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:11 PM
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Way off. Its been preached ever since I've been Oneness. I have seen a few men with beards on "platforms" recently. I would say the GREAT MAJORITY of Oneness Churches still are teaching to this day its rebellion or at least the platform standard.

When asked WHY it is a platform standard then the spirit of rebellion is brought into it.

So if no Preacher ever preaches its sin or less than holy why is it always an issue?
I didn’t say it was never preached against. I’m sure it was nailed hard on the 60-70s and even the 80s. The reason it’s still an issue is because there generally are deeper issues that such a simple standard can reveal. I have taught many times against the wearing of facial hair when teaching on holiness on a good old bible study day at the church. I always let people know it’s a standard of the church and not biblical holiness. It’s a good standard and I will keep fighting to keep it. I have never condemned a church to hell over facial hair ( but generally when they allow it they have a whole lot more things in against) yet I’m going to keep it out of the local church including who we fellowship with. It’s really a non issue for the most part. You all have more of a problem with our stand then we do lol.
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:13 PM
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How about prohibiting a guy with black painted fingernails on the platform? I'm serious.
Well the truth of the matter is we don’t have Bible chapter and vs for it.
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:15 PM
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As I figured, the beard had nothing to do with his leaving church. Why mislead people and post this?





The person prohibiting a bearded man from being used is in more danger than the bearded man -- if the prohibition causes a stumbling block to the bearded man.
My intention was not to mislead the post my intention was to show that people will do it for their jobs, sports ect but not for the glory of God.


Why because you don’t agree with the stand?
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:19 PM
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Btw way nobody get on the platform at our church who has a bed head hair do, skinny pants, Mohawks, pink shirts , happy socks, ect ... in church or out of church
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:32 PM
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I didn’t say it was never preached against. I’m sure it was nailed hard on the 60-70s and even the 80s.
Well yes. Also the 90's and up till now. There is a book on "facial hair" that was being sold by the Pentecostal Publishing House as recently as last year insinuating that beards could be the mark of the beast.

Or one wearing them may well be gay or a drug dealer.

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The reason it’s still an issue is because there generally are deeper issues that such a simple standard can reveal. I have taught many times against the wearing of facial hair when teaching on holiness on a good old bible study day at the church. I always let people know it’s a standard of the church and not biblical holiness.
So if one has a beard its a sign of deeper inner issues. So you teach against wearing beards when you teach on holiness but admit its not Bible holiness?

What other kind of holiness is there?
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:37 PM
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Let’s keep sanity in our logic.
There are principles of holiness wherever you are to keep.
And there is also a thing called being dress appropriately to the occasion.
Wedding, church, work, etc...
The former is in the Bible. The latter depends on the culture and organization policies. Let’s not equal things that belong to the former group to the things that belong to the latter group. I think we all know what belongs to what, don’t we?
I would rather see you coming to church in working cloth that miss it because you can’t come clean shaved and in a suit. Don’t we see the balance?
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:38 PM
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Well yes. Also the 90's and up till now. There is a book on "facial hair" that was being sold by the Pentecostal Publishing House as recently as last year insinuating that beards could be the mark of the beast.

Or one wearing them may well be gay or a drug dealer.



So if one has a beard its a sign of deeper inner issues. So you teach against wearing beards when you teach on holiness but admit its not Bible holiness?

What other kind of holiness is there?
You sound like the Democrats taking snips and running with it. Never once did I say somebody wearing a beard is a sign of a deeper issue.

Why is that so profound? Would you rather me lie to people and say the Bible says “ thou shalt not wear beards even though people in the Bible wore them “... I have principles of why we take a stand against them.
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:43 PM
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You sound like the Democrats taking snips and running with it. Never once did I say somebody wearing a beard is a sign of a deeper issue.

Why is that so profound? Would you rather me lie to people and say the Bible says “ thou shalt not wear beards even though people in the Bible wore them “... I have principles of why we take a stand against them.
What did this mean?

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The reason it’s still an issue is because there generally are deeper issues that such a simple standard can reveal.
Are the principles Bible supported? Do you remind the people that Jesus Christ had a beard?

Do you remind them the man on the judgement seat either has or at least did have a beard himself? That they will be judged by a bearded man?
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