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Old 03-12-2020, 12:12 PM
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Old 03-12-2020, 01:35 PM
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Cristina Higgins
March 10 at 6:27 PM ·

I am writing to you from Bergamo, Italy, at the heart of the coronavirus crisis. The news media in the US has not captured the severity of what is happening here.
I am writing this post because each of you, today, not the government, not the school district, not the mayor, each individual citizen has the chance,
today to take actions that will deter the Italian situation from becoming your own country’s reality. The only way to stop this virus is to limit contagion.
And the only way to limit contagion is for millions of people to change their behavior today.
If you are in Europe or the US you are weeks away from where we are today in Italy.

I can hear you now. “It’s just a flu. It only affects old people with preconditions”
There are 2 reasons why Coronavirus has brought Italy to it’s knees. First it is a flu is devastating when people get really sick they need weeks of ICU –
and, second, because of how fast and effectively it spreads. There is 2 week incubation period and many who have it never show symptoms.
When Prime Minister Conte announced last night that the entire country, 60 million people, would go on lock down, the line that struck me most was “there is no more time.”
Because to be clear, this national lock down, is a hail mary. What he means is that if the numbers of contagion do not start to go down, the system, Italy, will collapse.
Why? Today the ICUs in Lombardy are at capacity – more than capacity. They have begun to put ICU units in the hallways. If the numbers do not go down,
the growth rate of contagion tells us that there will be thousands of people who in a matter of a week? two weeks? who will need care.
What will happen when there are 100, or a 1000 people who need the hospital and only a few ICU places left?

On Monday a doctor wrote in the paper that they have begun to have to decide who lives and who dies when the patients show up in the emergency room, like what is done in war.
This will only get worse. There are a finite number of drs, nurses, medical staff and they are getting the virus. They have also been working non-stop, non-stop for days and days.
What happens when the drs, nurses and medical staff are simply not able to care for the patients, when they are not there?

And finally for those who say that this is just something that happens to old people, starting yesterday the hospitals are reporting that younger and younger patients
– 40, 45, 18, are coming in for treatment.

You have a chance to make a difference and stop the spread in your country. Push for the entire office to work at home today, cancel birthday parties, and other gatherings,
stay home as much as you can. If you have a fever, any fever, stay home. Push for school closures, now. Anything you can do to stop the spread, because it is spreading in your communities –
there is a two week incubation period – and if you do these things now you can buy your medical system time.

And for those who say it is not possible to close the schools, and do all these other things, locking down Italy was beyond anyone’s imagination a week ago.
Soon you will not have a choice, so do what you can now.
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https://www.facebook.com/cristina.hi...57623212885189

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Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who is currently in Italy with his wife, told “America’s Newsroom” Thursday that “Italy itself did not do what President Trump’s trying to do” to contain the coronavirus outbreak.
Gingrich, whose wife Callista serves as U.S. ambassador to the Holy See, spoke the morning after Trump announced that he will enact a 30-day ban on all travel to and from Europe, excluding the United Kingdom, in an effort to slow the virus' spread. Trump also urged Americans to listen to directives from their local officials, including bans on mass gatherings and social distancing protocols.
On Thursday Italy reported more than 12,400 cases, a 22.7 percent increase from the day before, according to information obtained by Fox News.
“Italy did not get ahead of this crisis,” Gingrich said on Thursday. “It allowed it to spread in a way that is really frightening.”

On Wednesday, one day after unprecedented travel and social restrictions in Italy took effect, the country’s premier said all stores, except pharmacies and grocery stores, are being closed nationwide in response to the outbreak.
Gas stations were not included in the order mandating which businesses will be forced to close and on Wednesday Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte announced no new restrictions on using public transportation. People in Italy are allowed to travel for work, medical appointments or to care for family members in need.
“Northern Italy has thousands of cases and, in fact, there are several hospitals that are refusing to treat elderly citizens because they don't have enough intensive care units and they don't have enough ventilators and so they’ve literally begun to triage and said, 'Look, if you’re above a certain age or you have a certain health condition, we’re just not going to treat you,'” Gingrich said on Thursday.


https://www.foxnews.com/media/newt-g...outbreak-trump

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Old 03-12-2020, 01:40 PM
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So many random people on the internet telling everybody "what's really going on" and all of them suggesting we do what statist control freaks would love for us to do. So yeah, Christina Who?

(Nothing personal against you, sister, it's just we need to really question the info being fed to us and by whom.)
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So many random people on the internet telling everybody "what's really going on" and all of them suggesting we do what statist control freaks would love for us to do. So yeah, Christina Who?

(Nothing personal against you, sister, it's just we need to really question the info being fed to us and by whom.)

You can make the best of decisions, based on poor information, and it is a bad decision. Your decisions are only as good as the information that you base them on.
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Old 03-12-2020, 01:56 PM
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You can make the best of decisions, based on poor information, and it is a bad decision. Your decisions are only as good as the information that you base them on.
This.

And what are the sources of all the info we're getting? Are they reliable? Do they have a thoroughly documented proven history of lying and deceiving?

Like I've said, the MAIN issue is the Official Response to whatever they're telling us is going on more than what's "happening".
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In Italy, according to the eyewitness accounts I posted above, the healthcare system is collapsing.
They are having to do triage and are not treating the elderly because they can not treat everyone.

I told my husband, I had a dream that our healthcare system collapsed, the national guard was called out, and we elected a communist for president.

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Maternity wards are going to be PACKED OUT in 9 or 10 months with all these sports cancelling/suspending seasons....

We figured out that if stores are sold out of TP, don't worry, you can just walk in to any store bathroom and get a roll for free! It'll take a few minutes to unroll it from the dispenser ... but it's there!
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Speaking of random anecdotes...

A friend of our family who is National Guard (74D) said he's heard literally nothing except what's on the news. Either he's under strict orders not to tip off anybody he cares about, or he's being kept in the dark, or... there's not actually anything extraordinary going on (at the moment, anyway).
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There's some good news -- WA, OH, MD, KY and PA have all ordered public schools to close temporarily.

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There's some good news -- WA, OH, MD, KY and PA have all ordered public schools to close temporarily.
That’s good news?
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