Will drinking beer send you to hell?

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Tequila

That sounds like something someone from California would say. Oh Lord, they need to be saved....

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I challenge this assertion and ask for some documentation of this claim.

Meanwhile, the Bible says this about the origin and purpose of wine:

Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty. Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain: Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind: Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire: Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever. Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains. At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away. They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them. Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth. He sendeth the springs into the valleys, which run among the hills. They give drink to every beast of the field: the wild asses quench their thirst. By them shall the fowls of the heaven have their habitation, which sing among the branches. He watereth the hills from his chambers: the earth is satisfied with the fruit of thy works. He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.
(Psa 104:1-15)

Nothing about preventing dysentery.

So intoxication is not sin?!

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by consapente89

So intoxication is not sin?!

Please show how the passage I quoted says or implies that "intoxication is not sin."

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Jito463

Are you saying that one must drink to be happy?

No answer? I'm really interested in what you meant by that.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Jito463

Are you saying that one must drink to be happy?

What? Of course not. Thats your words not mine and a horrible false equivalency.


I merely pointed out that the Bible seems to point out that God makes things that provide paths to happiness in the heart of men.


Whats your problem with the verse?


Do you disagree with the words or their intent used by their creator?


Lord help us to not become so moral and self righteous that we call a creation that God called good, evil.


And no...I dont drink. No dog in this fight other than talking about your particular triggering to me pointing out that the Bible doesnt seem to 100% support the local party line of The Temperance Movement.

[Nicodemus1968]

I’m just waiting for the day I read a post that supports marijuana. Just from the debate of this thread your arguments would grant someone the ability to smoke it and be wonderfully saved.

Points that are used in support of Alcohol, can be used the same for marijuana.

1- Nowhere in the Bible does it say SPECIFICALLY that one cannot smoke it.
2- It’s God created.
3- You can smoke it in moderation.

😂

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

I’m just waiting for the day I read a post that supports marijuana. Just from the debate of this thread your arguments would grant someone the ability to smoke it and be wonderfully saved.

Points that are used in support of Alcohol, can be used the same for marijuana.

1- Nowhere in the Bible does it say SPECIFICALLY that one cannot smoke it.
2- It’s God created.
3- You can smoke it in moderation.

😂

You're obviously new here.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Please show how the passage I quoted says or implies that "intoxication is not sin."

Brother?

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

I’m just waiting for the day I read a post that supports marijuana. Just from the debate of this thread your arguments would grant someone the ability to smoke it and be wonderfully saved.

Points that are used in support of Alcohol, can be used the same for marijuana.

1- Nowhere in the Bible does it say SPECIFICALLY that one cannot smoke it.
2- It’s God created.
3- You can smoke it in moderation.

😂

I think that the burden of proof lies on you to prove that smoking it would take away that right.




You DO know that before the "Reefer Madness" insanity which was just the government declaring war on people, cannabis sativa and cannabis indica were both common ingredients found in pharmacies and apocatharies used for both man and beast right?




You laugh with nervous laughter my friend, "This guy can't be serious right? That plant will send you directly to the hot place!"


Who said and by what reasoning?


See, I think that people confuse criminal activity with sinful activity.


"But the two are one in the same!"


You shriek,


"Not so"


Says I.


If you believe that criminal activity always = sinful activity, then as the devil all I have to do to send you to hell and bring everything to naught is to create enough laws that NO one could follow 100% of the time.


Instant criminal + instant sinner= eternity in the hotplace aka Devil Wins


So you'd have to prove to me that you obey all laws and to do that you'd have to know them because if you dont know the law, how you truthfully declare that you obey them?


Or you can see the futility of that argument and scratch your head and say,"Hey maybe the government aint the best at deciding whats good and bad and God ultimately holds ME responsible so Im gonna behave as if HE makes the rules and decides who goes where."

[Light]

Originally Posted by consapente89

So intoxication is not sin?!

Look at Noe he was so drunk with grape juice that he couldn’t stop Ham from from molesting him