Chris Reed

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Right, when you name a person's mother and father, and.then give relevant encouragement to their situation, that is more than just a lucky guess.

I totally agree, its more than a lucky guess. Yet, is that prophecy? And if it is, then please show where that type is in the Bible?

I have no axe to grind with Mr. Reed, dont know him other the situation with a church in Midwest USA.

Yet, when Mike posted the live stream with Chris and he preached his sermon, and afterwards did that; what it reminded me of was a telethon. Chris asking them questions, “do you have this (name) in your family”, “did they recently move” all that goes hand in hand with the physics and mediums. If he says he is a prophet, then Ill believe him, and we watch for the works. Yet, I have never seen nor heard of a prophet doing the work like i have seen Chris.

Compare to the prophets of Old, and New Testament, and I’m not talking about calling fire from heaven, or transferring leprosy. I’m talking about how they gave the word.

2 Peter 1:19
[19] We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

The word SURE in this verse means, Firm, confident, steadfast, sure.

Elijah, Nathan, Samuel, Jeremiah, Agabus they had a sure word.

Compare that to Chris, and it doesn’t sound like he has a sure word. I guess I can be wrong and this is a new style of prophecy.

I seen the Lord use prophets, I know a prophet.

I remember he preached to a couple that have been married for 20 years at that time. Been in church for about 19 years of their marriage, one special service he told them, that if in 5 years you dont get it right, you’ll be divorced. My parents are now divorced.

I know a prophet that went to a church, walked right in while they were having service. He walked down the center isle and told the Pastor to get into the wheel barrel, the Pastor got in, and he walked him around the church several times. Finally, he let him off and told him, thats what this church is doing to you. The church dramatically changed after that.

I know of a man, a novice if you will. He believes the Lord has called him into the office of the prophet. He felt the Lord gave him a word to a Pastor. From what I understand the young man never spoke to this Pastor before, never been to his church. Yet he went, in confidence I cant say everything, yet I can say God told him he was going to give him one more chance to get right. As he went to the church he asked God to give him a confirmation, while the Pastor was preaching he stopped and said, “I’m not sure why I’m going to say this, yet I feel someone here is going to be given there last chance to get it right.”

I can go on, yet those are examples in my opinion of an office of a prophet. I dont see that with Chris, I see his way of ministry fall more in the lines of mediums. Time will tell, I hope I’m wrong.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I look at it this way. It could be that God will use him to bring Acts 2:38 and Oneness truth to them. While there is a possibility of him compromising it there is that possibility with ANY minister who tries to reach outside of his 4 walls.

I havent been following him other than watching a few of his videos about a month ago. Obviously he believes in Acts 2:38 and keeping the law. I would be as much concerned about him teaching law keeping as associating with Charismatics.

Are you aware of any particular Charismatic groups he is popular with? The only group I know of he SEEMS to embrace is Jesse Whites. If I recall my few discussions with Jesse I think we agreed more than disagreed except on the law.

Looks like everyone who has gone amongst the "charismatics" didn't shake any pillars loose. Follow the money. If the Bible said THOU SHALT NEVER EVER TAKE MONEY, MUST WORK A SECULAR JOB. You would see a whole lot of Hollywood prophets disappear. Remember Peter Popoff.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Yet, when Mike posted the live stream with Chris and he preached his sermon, and afterwards did that; what it reminded me of was a telethon. Chris asking them questions, “do you have this (name) in your family”, “did they recently move” all that goes hand in hand with the physics and mediums. If he says he is a prophet, then Ill believe him, and we watch for the works. Yet, I have never seen nor heard of a prophet doing the work like i have seen Chris.

Look up "Cold Reading Techniques."

[Evang.Benincasa]

Also look into the "Barnum effect"

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

When Richard Alpert aka Ram Dass met Neem Karoli baba (his guru) the Guru told him about his life. What happened was this, the night before the meeting Richard Alpert was looking up into the Indian night sky at the stars. He was thinking about his mother who had recently died. When Richard Alpert met with Neem Karoli baba, the Guru told Mr Alpert what he was thinking about the night before as he looked up into the night sky. This was Mr Alpert's epiphany, his moment of clarity where he chose the path of Hinduism.

So, my question is this, just because someone reads your mail, should we follow them? False Prophets weren't necessarily called false prophets because they got the prophecy wrong. It was because THEY were wrong.

Anyone care to take a poke at this one? How did this Hindu Guru read the mail of Richard Alpert? It changed his life to such a degree that his research into LSD was the least of his problems.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

I totally agree, its more than a lucky guess. Yet, is that prophecy? And if it is, then please show where that type is in the Bible?

I have no axe to grind with Mr. Reed, dont know him other the situation with a church in Midwest USA.

Yet, when Mike posted the live stream with Chris and he preached his sermon, and afterwards did that; what it reminded me of was a telethon. Chris asking them questions, “do you have this (name) in your family”, “did they recently move” all that goes hand in hand with the physics and mediums. If he says he is a prophet, then Ill believe him, and we watch for the works. Yet, I have never seen nor heard of a prophet doing the work like i have seen Chris.

Compare to the prophets of Old, and New Testament, and I’m not talking about calling fire from heaven, or transferring leprosy. I’m talking about how they gave the word.

2 Peter 1:19
[19] We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

The word SURE in this verse means, Firm, confident, steadfast, sure.

Elijah, Nathan, Samuel, Jeremiah, Agabus they had a sure word.

Compare that to Chris, and it doesn’t sound like he has a sure word. I guess I can be wrong and this is a new style of prophecy.

I seen the Lord use prophets, I know a prophet.

I remember he preached to a couple that have been married for 20 years at that time. Been in church for about 19 years of their marriage, one special service he told them, that if in 5 years you dont get it right, you’ll be divorced. My parents are now divorced.

I know a prophet that went to a church, walked right in while they were having service. He walked down the center isle and told the Pastor to get into the wheel barrel, the Pastor got in, and he walked him around the church several times. Finally, he let him off and told him, thats what this church is doing to you. The church dramatically changed after that.

I know of a man, a novice if you will. He believes the Lord has called him into the office of the prophet. He felt the Lord gave him a word to a Pastor. From what I understand the young man never spoke to this Pastor before, never been to his church. Yet he went, in confidence I cant say everything, yet I can say God told him he was going to give him one more chance to get right. As he went to the church he asked God to give him a confirmation, while the Pastor was preaching he stopped and said, “I’m not sure why I’m going to say this, yet I feel someone here is going to be given there last chance to get it right.”

I can go on, yet those are examples in my opinion of an office of a prophet. I dont see that with Chris, I see his way of ministry fall more in the lines of mediums. Time will tell, I hope I’m wrong.

I didn't say it was prophecy, I said he is gifted as in Word of Wisdom, Word of Knowledge.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I look at it this way. It could be that God will use him to bring Acts 2:38 and Oneness truth to them. While there is a possibility of him compromising it there is that possibility with ANY minister who tries to reach outside of his 4 walls.

I havent been following him other than watching a few of his videos about a month ago. Obviously he believes in Acts 2:38 and keeping the law. I would be as much concerned about him teaching law keeping as associating with Charismatics.

Are you aware of any particular Charismatic groups he is popular with? The only group I know of he SEEMS to embrace is Jesse Whites. If I recall my few discussions with Jesse I think we agreed more than disagreed except on the law.

He doesn't teach keeping the law in general. He teaches keeping the Royal Law of the 10 commandments.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Looks like everyone who has gone amongst the "charismatics" didn't shake any pillars loose. Follow the money. If the Bible said THOU SHALT NEVER EVER TAKE MONEY, MUST WORK A SECULAR JOB. You would see a whole lot of Hollywood prophets disappear. Remember Peter Popoff.

Theres always hope. Do you ever pray for Charismatics or talk with them about Oneness?

As to the Hollywood prophets we would see the same thing among many "pastors".

I do remember Peter Popoff. I also have experience with W.V. Grant Jr. I oppose false prophets as well as false "pastor/teachers".

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Theres always hope. Do you ever pray for Charismatics or talk with them about Oneness?

As to the Hollywood prophets we would see the same thing among many "pastors".

I do remember Peter Popoff. I also have experience with W.V. Grant Jr. I oppose false prophets as well as false "pastor/teachers".

You sure don’t like pastors.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You sure don’t like pastors.

You sure do like deflecting.