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If this is accurate, then America has a evolving free speech problem. Private conversations are now being monitored and censored? Sickening and so sad.
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If this is accurate, then America has a evolving free speech problem. Private conversations are now being monitored and censored? Sickening and so sad.

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That gotta be a glitch. I can't believe they are doing that. It would be way too obvious. The recipient would be asking again for the information as it would look like a broken conversation and they would find a way to work around it.

Anyway, I use Signal. As a computer scientist knowing the guts and also escaping a communist country, I have a tremendous distrust for public tech stuff. The harder you make them build a profile of you based on the retained history of your use of the grid, the better. You never know what kind of Gov't we will have in 15, or 20 or 40 years, and if they would leverage historical data to mine and find "enemies". Even if you said something stupid when you were a teen, and you have matured already, they will not forgive you and it could affect your employment for decades, or worse. Keep in mind that everything you say is retained. Conversations over the grid are not ephemeral in most cases.

People that know me call me paranoid when it comes to internet. I call it simply "internet hygiene practices" .

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Old 11-17-2020, 02:38 PM
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That gotta be a glitch. I can't believe they are doing that. It would be way too obvious. The recipient would be asking again for the information as it would look like a broken conversation and they would find a way to work around it.

Anyway, I use Signal. As a computer scientist knowing the guts and also escaping a communist country, I have a tremendous distrust for public tech stuff. The harder you make them build a profile of you based on the retained history of your use of the grid, the better. You never know what kind of Gov't we will have in 15, or 20 or 40 years, and if they would leverage historical data to mine and find "enemies". Even if you said something stupid when you were a teen, and you have matured already, they will not forgive you and it could affect your employment for decades, or worse. Keep in mind that everything you say is retained. Conversations over the grid are not ephemeral in most cases.

People that know me call me paranoid when it comes to internet. I call it simply "internet hygiene practices" .
Everyone I know (in real life) who came to America from a communist or formerly communist country have remarked how we are currently on the cusp of being a full blown communist country here.

None of them are democrats, either.
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Everyone I know (in real life) who came to America from a communist or formerly communist country have remarked how we are currently on the cusp of being a full blown communist country here.

None of them are democrats, either.
If the beast is targeting you, there is nothing you can do at that point. You goal really is to avoid being victim of mass surveillance. You basically want to be sneaky. Mass surveillance on the grid works by collecting a lot of data, and then mining to build profiles of individuals based on historical data. You want to make it difficult for the mining algorithms to correlate your data with you.

Why do you want to be sneaky? It is in part survival, but also being able to preach the Gospel and disciple as many as you can before being caught. Being there done that.

I recommend not to trust the grid even with Republican gov't, because the gov't can change in your lifetime.

What most people don't realize is that we are wired in our brain for dialogs to be ephemeral, truly private as participants want, and memory to keep only summaries, and also to forget over time.

Chatting apps over the grid, on the other hands, give you a UX that makes you feel that the dialog is also ephemeral, but they are not. People know it, but they don't really analyze that fact and its implications in practice, so they just "talk" like if it were in an ephemeral conversation. Hence, the profiling trap. Emails Apps have become "conversational" as well; and if I stretch it, almost everything: fb, twitter, etc...

This is what I tell people: try to make ephemeral conversation truly ephemeral on the grid. And non-ephemeral writings on the grid like if you were writing an epistle to be read by many people for years to come (and expect the gov't and readers ideologies to change).

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That gotta be a glitch. I can't believe they are doing that. It would be way too obvious. The recipient would be asking again for the information as it would look like a broken conversation and they would find a way to work around it.

Anyway, I use Signal. As a computer scientist knowing the guts and also escaping a communist country, I have a tremendous distrust for public tech stuff. The harder you make them build a profile of you based on the retained history of your use of the grid, the better. You never know what kind of Gov't we will have in 15, or 20 or 40 years, and if they would leverage historical data to mine and find "enemies". Even if you said something stupid when you were a teen, and you have matured already, they will not forgive you and it could affect your employment for decades, or worse. Keep in mind that everything you say is retained. Conversations over the grid are not ephemeral in most cases.

People that know me call me paranoid when it comes to internet. I call it simply "internet hygiene practices" .



No comrade. We must keep record of communications to have plenty of fodder for the purges and gulags. It is by purging the wrongthink from our midst that we exorcise the demons from the evils of capitalism.
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No comrade. We must keep record of communications to have plenty of fodder for the purges and gulags. It is by purging the wrongthink from our midst that we exorcise the demons from the evils of capitalism.
You may be joking but the spirit of it is already operating. They are already oppressing by attacking the livelihood of the non-conforming. It is happening at the Corporate level, and wanting to get into the Gov't level as well.

Don't be surprised if one day they include into your background checks for employment things you didn't expect them to have access to, and then they say "no cultural fit" as the final excuse. This is just the beginning.

Check this out:

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2020...276253-n276253
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If the beast is targeting you, there is nothing you can do at that point. You goal really is to avoid being victim of mass surveillance. You basically want to be sneaky. Mass surveillance on the grid works by collecting a lot of data, and then mining to build profiles of individuals based on historical data. You want to make it difficult for the mining algorithms to correlate your data with you.

Why do you want to be sneaky? It is in part survival, but also being able to preach the Gospel and disciple as many as you can before being caught. Being there done that.

I recommend not to trust the grid even with Republican gov't, because the gov't can change in your lifetime.

What most people don't realize is that we are wired in our brain for dialogs to be ephemeral, truly private as participants want, and memory to keep only summaries, and also to forget over time.

Chatting apps over the grid, on the other hands, give you a UX that makes you feel that the dialog is also ephemeral, but they are not. People know it, but they don't really analyze that fact and its implications in practice, so they just "talk" like if it were in an ephemeral conversation. Hence, the profiling trap. Emails Apps have become "conversational" as well; and if I stretch it, almost everything: fb, twitter, etc...

This is what I tell people: try to make ephemeral conversation truly ephemeral on the grid. And non-ephemeral writings on the grid like if you were writing an epistle to be read by many people for years to come (and expect the gov't and readers ideologies to change).
How funny: https://www.wsj.com/articles/twitter...618010?mod=mhp
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