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12-30-2020, 12:04 PM
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Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
SARS-CoV-2 has not been proven to exist; I can do this forever Dec 18
by Jon Rappoport
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020...oven-to-exist/
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12-30-2020, 07:43 PM
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Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
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When are you getting the shot?
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I haven’t made that decision. Nevertheless, I have lots of vaccines in me, even for things not in the USA regular schedule. It makes your body stronger and helps prevent the need of strong drugs which are way worse.
I am glad that this new technology used for Covid is available, as it can be used for other diseases that today they use fetus tissues for.
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12-30-2020, 07:46 PM
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Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
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I haven’t made that decision. Nevertheless, I have lots of vaccines over the years in my body, even for things not in the USA regular schedule.
I am glad that this new technology used for Covid is available, as it can be used for other diseases that today they use fetus tissues for.
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https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/yo...ed-fetal-cells
"Question
Do the COVID-19 vaccines contain aborted fetal cells?
Answer from infectious diseases expert James Lawler, MD
No, the COVID-19 vaccines do not contain any aborted fetal cells. However, Pfizer and Moderna did perform confirmation tests (to ensure the vaccines work) using fetal cell lines.
But it's important to have the full context: Fetal cell lines are not the same as fetal tissue. Fetal cell lines are cells that grow in a laboratory. They descend from cells taken from elective abortions in the 1970s and 1980s. Those individual cells from the 1970s and 1980s have since multiplied into many new cells over the past four or five decades, creating fetal cell lines. Current fetal cell lines are thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue.
Vaccine makers may use these fetal cell lines in any of the following three stages of vaccine development:
Development: Identifying what works
Confirmation: Making sure it works
Production: Manufacturing the formula that works
When it comes to the COVID-19 vaccines currently approved for emergency use, neither the Pfizer nor Moderna vaccines used fetal cell lines during the development or production phases. (So, no fetal cell lines were used to manufacture the vaccine, and they are not inside the injection you receive from your doctor.) However, both companies used the fetal cell line HEK 293 in the confirmation phase to ensure the vaccines work. All HEK 293 cells are descended from tissue taken from a 1973 elective abortion that took place in the Netherlands. "
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12-30-2020, 07:48 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
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Originally Posted by Esaias
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/yo...ed-fetal-cells
"Question
Do the COVID-19 vaccines contain aborted fetal cells?
Answer from infectious diseases expert James Lawler, MD
No, the COVID-19 vaccines do not contain any aborted fetal cells. However, Pfizer and Moderna did perform confirmation tests (to ensure the vaccines work) using fetal cell lines.
But it's important to have the full context: Fetal cell lines are not the same as fetal tissue. Fetal cell lines are cells that grow in a laboratory. They descend from cells taken from elective abortions in the 1970s and 1980s. Those individual cells from the 1970s and 1980s have since multiplied into many new cells over the past four or five decades, creating fetal cell lines. Current fetal cell lines are thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue.
Vaccine makers may use these fetal cell lines in any of the following three stages of vaccine development:
Development: Identifying what works
Confirmation: Making sure it works
Production: Manufacturing the formula that works
When it comes to the COVID-19 vaccines currently approved for emergency use, neither the Pfizer nor Moderna vaccines used fetal cell lines during the development or production phases. (So, no fetal cell lines were used to manufacture the vaccine, and they are not inside the injection you receive from your doctor.) However, both companies used the fetal cell line HEK 293 in the confirmation phase to ensure the vaccines work. All HEK 293 cells are descended from tissue taken from a 1973 elective abortion that took place in the Netherlands. "
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Women get abortions. Doctors kill the babies, but "keep some of the baby cells alive" and grow them in petri dishes, keeping them going for decades. Then they use those baby cells (what's left of the baby, kept alive in a laboratory, in other words) to produce, develop, and test various bio-pharmaceutical concoctions.
Mengele would be proud.
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12-30-2020, 07:49 PM
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Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
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Originally Posted by Esaias
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/yo...ed-fetal-cells
"Question
Do the COVID-19 vaccines contain aborted fetal cells?
Answer from infectious diseases expert James Lawler, MD
No, the COVID-19 vaccines do not contain any aborted fetal cells. However, Pfizer and Moderna did perform confirmation tests (to ensure the vaccines work) using fetal cell lines.
But it's important to have the full context: Fetal cell lines are not the same as fetal tissue. Fetal cell lines are cells that grow in a laboratory. They descend from cells taken from elective abortions in the 1970s and 1980s. Those individual cells from the 1970s and 1980s have since multiplied into many new cells over the past four or five decades, creating fetal cell lines. Current fetal cell lines are thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue.
Vaccine makers may use these fetal cell lines in any of the following three stages of vaccine development:
Development: Identifying what works
Confirmation: Making sure it works
Production: Manufacturing the formula that works
When it comes to the COVID-19 vaccines currently approved for emergency use, neither the Pfizer nor Moderna vaccines used fetal cell lines during the development or production phases. (So, no fetal cell lines were used to manufacture the vaccine, and they are not inside the injection you receive from your doctor.) However, both companies used the fetal cell line HEK 293 in the confirmation phase to ensure the vaccines work. All HEK 293 cells are descended from tissue taken from a 1973 elective abortion that took place in the Netherlands. "
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Shame on them. Stupid. No need for that.
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12-30-2020, 08:29 PM
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Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
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Originally Posted by coksiw
CDC isolated the virus and made it available for research. The press release from yesterday: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...l-culture.html
The sequencing we have been using is from China isolating of the virus: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN28E2SB
Therefore, we will see in the coming days if the China's sequencing was significantly different than what the CDC has. If it is then we have reasons for more sanctions, if it is not then we all should be good.
The fact that the vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are effective 95%, can be an indicator that the sequencing we have from China is actually legit.
RNA and DNA sequencing has been around for decades, and it is a well understood and accurate technology at this point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_sequencing#History
The novelty of this mRNA vaccine is the ability to preserve the sequenced messenger RNA for long enough to transport it long distances, and distribute it, and then inject it as a vaccine.
The risk is not the sequencing that much, but the other components they use to preserve it and bring it into your cells so the enzymes can do their job creating the proteins.
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The sequencing is from China?
So are the citizens of the U.S. supposed to trust the data from China? One day China is the enemy , then the next they are useful and can be trusted. People who play that game are the problem.
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12-31-2020, 01:15 AM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood too
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Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Women get abortions. Doctors kill the babies, but "keep some of the baby cells alive" and grow them in petri dishes, keeping them going for decades. Then they use those baby cells (what's left of the baby, kept alive in a laboratory, in other words) to produce, develop, and test various bio-pharmaceutical concoctions.
Mengele would be proud.
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