Defend your Faith

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Kutless

Pastor Epley, what I am trying to say is that according to our doctrine (ourside of children and mentally challenged) if you have not obeyed Acts 2:38 and spoke in tongues you are going to Hell. There is no way around it.

But all the while instead of saying that we skirt around the core and fluff it up to say "OH I'm not the Judge, God is fair blah blah blah"

Which is true. But do we believe that there might be a chance that someone(outside of kids and mentally challenged)that has not followed Acts 2:38 will make it to Heaven? In our doctrine there is no room for that.

You have to choices: 1. Hope like crazy you go to the right church

2. Go to Hell

I preach EVERYONE without exception is lost in this dispensation who has not obeyed Acts 2:38 but God is the final judge that is a fact. I am NOT implying he will save folks who have not obeyed the gospel I am ONLY saying He is the judge and at the judgment He can do what He wants. I am in the preaching business He is in the final judgment business.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

They have the same free will you and I have. What they lack is ability.

Same to my small mind I might be on either ticket come to think of it.

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I preach EVERYONE without exception is lost in this dispensation who has not obeyed Acts 2:38 but God is the final judge that is a fact. I am NOT implying he will save folks who have not obeyed the gospel I am ONLY saying He is the judge and at the judgment He can do what He wants. I am in the preaching business He is in the final judgment business.

the doctrine contradicts what you say here. IN fact you contradict yourself.

Everyone without exception......but. Does not fly Pastor Epley.

Either it is or it isn't.

[H2H]

Originally Posted by Kutless

On the first point.....very interesting. Would have access to that documentation?


Secondly, poor writing on my part. If the oneness doctrine is not the only avenue to heaven what would be another way?

Our God is One, by Talmage French (hardback)

On the second one I am going to have to go with "Jesus" - really - he is the only way. Our understanding is flawed no doubt, as is our interpretation of scripture... we can't even come together on a OP forum. I find it comforting to rest in Him.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Kutless

the doctrine contradicts what you say here. IN fact you contradict yourself.

Everyone without exception......but. Does not fly Pastor Epley.

Either it is or it isn't.

I can say no more????????????? I preach EVERYONE WITHOUT EXCEPTION is lost(not including babies & mentally handicapped) that has NOT obeyed Acts 2:38 and God is the final judge I made NO exception however He has the right if He chooses to( I doubt it) but he does have that right He is the final judge NOT I. What is contradictory about that??????????????

[OP_Carl]

Originally Posted by H2H

LOL!

OP Carl caves to the pressure!! The decision has been made.

Next motion??

I move to send you to purgatory, and then to the hospital for a spinal transfusion.

What pressure? The message is so simple a child can understand it. For the record I haven't sent anybody to hell. And not, on occasion, for lack of desire, either.

I have some questions for you, H2H:

1) What is your standard response to the question, 'why do bad things sometimes happen to good people?'

2) What is your standard response to the question, 'what does the bible say is necessary for salvation?'

If you won't answer these questions in a direct fashion, you're going to straight to Hell,












Michigan, 48169!

[H2H]

Originally Posted by OP_Carl

I move to send you to purgatory, and then to the hospital for a spinal transfusion.

What pressure? The message is so simple a child can understand it. For the record I haven't sent anybody to hell. And not, on occasion, for lack of desire, either.

I have some questions for you, H2H:

1) What is your standard response to the question, 'why do bad things sometimes happen to good people?'

2) What is your standard response to the question, 'what does the bible say is necessary for salvation?'

If you won't answer these questions in a direct fashion, you're going to straight to Hell,












Michigan, 48169!

Sweet. Can I get this as an electronic ticket?

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I can say no more????????????? I preach EVERYONE WITHOUT EXCEPTION is lost(not including babies & mentally handicapped) that has NOT obeyed Acts 2:38 and God is the final judge I made NO exception however He has the right if He chooses to( I doubt it) but he does have that right He is the final judge NOT I. What is contradictory about that??????????????

does God not judge according to His WOrd?

do you believe that there is exceptions to Acts 2:38?

If not then be like Bro OP and say it! SAY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THEY ARE ALL GOING TO HELLL

[OP_Carl]

This is fun!

Who's next?

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by OP_Carl

This is fun!

Who's next?

you're just saying that cuz your winning! oloroid