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08-26-2024, 01:01 PM
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Re: What saith the Prophets?
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This is what bites the UPC in its hinder places. They won’t license ministers with brand X eschatology. But they’ll get cozy with full blown heretics. Just because they’re Zionist.
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08-26-2024, 05:23 PM
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Re: What saith the Prophets?
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This is what bites the UPC in its hinder places. They won’t license ministers with brand X eschatology. But they’ll get cozy with full blown heretics. Just because they’re Zionist.
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Is this true? I wasn’t aware they took such a hard stance. So youre saying if you’re anything but a pretrib rapture preacher, you can’t join?
I had a convo recently with a former superintendent, and He said the organization really has no power to pull a ministers license. Our conversation had more to do with holiness standards than eschatology.
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08-26-2024, 10:40 PM
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Re: What saith the Prophets?
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Is this true? I wasn’t aware they took such a hard stance. So youre saying if you’re anything but a pretrib rapture preacher, you can’t join?
I had a convo recently with a former superintendent, and He said the organization really has no power to pull a ministers license. Our conversation had more to do with holiness standards than eschatology.
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You aren't going to get a license if you believe in Brand X eschatology. Thus saith the manual. I think you know what I mean, since you are from "Southern Michigan?"
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08-26-2024, 10:41 PM
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Re: What saith the Prophets?
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Preterist that believes in Jesus- BAD!
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Bullseye! 
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08-26-2024, 10:49 PM
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Re: What saith the Prophets?
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I’m not completely preterist, but I don’t see how no one actually paid any attention to the fact that they DO believe in a resurrection.
Quite the knee-jerk reaction, if you ask me. But some pastors that I have been familiar with make many decisions via a jerk of the knee.
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08-27-2024, 12:10 PM
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Re: What saith the Prophets?
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I’m not completely preterist, but I don’t see how no one actually paid any attention to the fact that they DO believe in a resurrection.
Quite the knee-jerk reaction, if you ask me. But some pastors that I have been familiar with make many decisions via a jerk of the knee.
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Back during the Brother Larry T Smith hysteria. I noticed that Pentecost was all over the place concerning eschatology. While they were staunch against one position. They barely could answer questions concerning their own. My wife’s UPC church were solid Pre Trib Zionists. But, when they were taken to task on their beliefs they were dumb founded. First accusation made was that Brand X were antisemitic. Also called Replacement Theology. The knee jerk was that 1 Modern Israel was God’s favorites, 2 the Church was just the red headed stepchild.
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08-27-2024, 02:39 PM
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Re: What saith the Prophets?
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You aren't going to get a license if you believe in Brand X eschatology. Thus saith the manual. I think you know what I mean, since you are from "Southern Michigan?"
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Central Indiana.... It seems to me they will give a license to anyone nowadays.
Women, adulterers, compromisers..... Sign on the dotted line, pay your dues....
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08-27-2024, 02:59 PM
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Re: What saith the Prophets?
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You aren't going to get a license if you believe in Brand X eschatology. Thus saith the manual. I think you know what I mean, since you are from "Southern Michigan?"
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The screen shot says it all.
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08-27-2024, 03:04 PM
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Re: What saith the Prophets?
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Central Indiana.... It seems to me they will give a license to anyone nowadays.
Women, adulterers, compromisers..... Sign on the dotted line, pay your dues....
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The organization may not be perfect, but Im sure there are still amazing pastors, elders, and teachers within it.
You might join another flawed organization . . .and find that you could do worse.
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08-27-2024, 03:20 PM
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Re: What saith the Prophets?
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Central Indiana.... It seems to me they will give a license to anyone nowadays.
Women, adulterers, compromisers..... Sign on the dotted line, pay your dues....
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That's painful. 
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