Bishop Jakes Responses to His Critics!!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by seguidordejesus

sort of like the whiff you get when you lift up the edge of a not-quite-old cow pattie?

That can only come from a Texan!

[seguidordejesus]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

That can only come from a Texan!

I've spent a little too much time with the javelinas!

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

This has already been posted and discussed.

I remember a discussion, but I did not remember this being the exact article that was discussed.

[sola gratia]

Listen regardless of my views on the Godhead ... here is the nutshell... Jakes believes in some morphed form of modalism, but all his cash comes from trinitarians ... that is the only reason he even used the dreaded "T" word in this article..... whatever you are... be that, and dont pander... I find that to be a little weak

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by sola gratia

Listen regardless of my views on the Godhead ... here is the nutshell... Jakes believes in some morphed form of modalism, but all his cash comes from trinitarians ... that is the only reason he even used the dreaded "T" word in this article..... whatever you are... be that, and dont pander... I find that to be a little weak

What are you talking about, "his cash comes from trinitarians". With a church membership of 26,000, don't you think those that have embraced what he believes can support him?

It is not en ought that someone preaches repentance, baptism in Jesus name, and Spirit baptism, it must be done according to some other rigid outline? Again, I say, if DJ preached the outward standards OP would be falling all over themselves to embrace him. :NHL_check

[sola gratia]

You’re probably right they would be.. But he does not preach them, and you’ll be hard pressed to find him preaching any doctrine at all as well. I like Jakes, and I like trinitarianism… but lets face it Tommy Tenney, TD Jakes, Philips, Craig and Dean and so on … sell the largest majority of their books, have their programs supported, and their conferences attended by Trinitarians… hence their reluctance to just simply spill their guts regarding their theology – try to find a doctrinal statement on Tenney’s website… Surprisingly absent!

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by sola gratia

You’re probably right they would be.. But he does not preach them, and you’ll be hard pressed to find him preaching any doctrine at all as well. I like Jakes, and I like trinitarianism… but lets face it Tommy Tenney, TD Jakes, Philips, Craig and Dean and so on … sell the largest majority of their books, have their programs supported, and their conferences attended by Trinitarians… hence their reluctance to just simply spill their guts regarding their theology – try to find a doctrinal statement on Tenney’s website… Surprisingly absent!

I would say that most people on here buy books that were written by trinitarians. What's the difference? You are supporting them! Why would you criticize someone because a trinitarian buys their stuff???? Doesn't make sense, IMO.

[sola gratia]

Originally Posted by Sherri

I would say that most people on here buy books that were written by trinitarians. What's the difference? You are supporting them! Why would you criticize someone because a trinitarian buys their stuff???? Doesn't make sense, IMO.

I'm not at all. Perhaps I did not word my pst clearly... I am sorry....

I am simply stating that I think Tenney, Jakes, and Philips Craig and Dean... along with others of similar doctrinal persuasions hide thier doctrine, as not to obstruct cash flow.... thats all.. its a judgement... I make no bones about it... perhaps they cloud their doctrinal views because they...... er um.... well I dont know any other reason than the one given

Again I lean towards trinitarianism - so whatever... I am just stating my thought on the matter... not the truth necessarily

[sola gratia]

I would like to correct one thing... Tenney has added a doctrinal section......


"God There is one God, Creator of all things, infinitely perfect, and eternally existing in three Manifestations: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."


He eternally exists as three manifestations? when I was oneness I viewed this as a diluted form of trinitarianism... What do you think?

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by sola gratia

You’re probably right they would be.. But he does not preach them, and you’ll be hard pressed to find him preaching any doctrine at all as well. I like Jakes, and I like trinitarianism… but lets face it Tommy Tenney, TD Jakes, Philips, Craig and Dean and so on … sell the largest majority of their books, have their programs supported, and their conferences attended by Trinitarians… hence their reluctance to just simply spill their guts regarding their theology – try to find a doctrinal statement on Tenney’s website… Surprisingly absent!

TOMMY