***NEWSFLASH*** - Fasten Your TV Seat Belts!!!! - Page 15

stmatthew · #**141** 07-21-2007, 12:56 PM

Some want to play the "control" card.

Well, I will play my card too. This is not about advertising on tv to win the lost. It is a preacher feeling justified that either already has a tv, or plans to get one. It has nothing to do with souls. The Resolution does not even open up for a preacher to get a tv, so are all You preachers that have them in your home gonna follow the government that you have chosen to agree to and get rid of them??

COOPER · #**142** 07-21-2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew

Some want to play the "control" card.

Well, I will play my card too. This is not about advertising on tv to win the lost. It is a preacher feeling justified that either already has a tv, or plans to get one. It has nothing to do with souls. The Resolution does not even open up for a preacher to get a tv, so are all You preachers that have them in your home gonna follow the government that you have chosen to agree to and get rid of them??

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so are all You preachers that have them in your home gonna follow the government that you have chosen to agree to and get rid of them??

LadyChocolate · #**143** 07-21-2007, 01:01 PM

When we teach the Word of God and teach people how to follow after the spirit and not after the flesh, they wont want to watch the television. does that make everything on there bad? no of course not... When we teach people the Word of God and how it says to set no evil before your eyes, and then if the people's hearts are right, they won't watch the junk on tv or video or whatever. If you are being led by the spirit of God, then you will not want adultery , murder, homosexuality. fornication in your house...whether it comes from tv or the books we read....

...it's kinda funny, some of the men we fellowship would put me in a backslidden condition because I watch adventures in odyssey or even educational films....but they have no problem sowing discord among the brethren... where is the balance????

no, I don't have a tv in my home and i am sure i will never have one... I am not for tv at all by no means.... but let me throw something at you here...

an elderly lady was a preacher's wife for over 50 years. They preached strong against tv... hubby dies and 8 years later she is in a nursing home with no way to church...no family to take her and only has a couple that takes her to service once every other month. hungry for the Word she ends up watching preaching on tv... she is 80 years old and is being blessed by the services... a wonderful, self righteous grandaughter said, it is sad that after all these years, grandma is going to hell for watching tv... Hmm??? TV is not the sin here....

COOPER · #**144** 07-21-2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyChocolate

an elderly lady was a preacher's wife for over 50 years. They preached strong against tv... hubby dies and 8 years later she is in a nursing home with no way to church...no family to take her and only has a couple that takes her to service once every other month. hungry for the Word she ends up watching preaching on tv... she is 80 years old and is being blessed by the services... a wonderful, self righteous granddaughter said, it is sad that after all these years, grandma is going to hell for watching tv... Hmm??? TV is not the sin here....

give a break

SDG · #**145** 07-21-2007, 01:09 PM

I've stated before about this FARCICAL debate ...

These are the issues that are and will continue be propagandized by both sides:

Holiness vs. Evangelism
Small Gov't vs. Bigger Gov't
Justice vs. Injustice
Spirituality vs. Carnality
Progress vs. Heritage
Submission vs. Perogative
Right vs. Wrong
Unity vs. Uniformity

but really it boils down to:

money, power, ideology, control and influence ... and LOT'S OF FOOLISH PRIDE!!!!

South of I 90 · #**146** 07-21-2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rrford

A source is a source, of course, of course,
And no one can talk to a source of course
That is, of course, unless the source is the famous Mister NLYP.

Go right to the source and ask the source
He’ll give you the answer that you’ll endorse.
He’s always on a steady course.
Talk to Mister NLYP.

People yakkity yak a streak and waste your time of day
But Mr. NLYP will never speak unless he has something to say

A source is a source, of course, of course,
And this one’ll talk ‘til his voice is hoarse.
You never heard of a talking source?

Well listen to this: "I'm Mister NLYP."

I just read this. Sorry I was late.

This is funny!!

#**147** 07-21-2007, 01:14 PM

Here is how I see all of this:

Those in control of the organizations make the playing rules.

Some are Biblical. Others are just their opinions.

If you don't abide by the Biblical AND their rules, then you are shunned. You are berated as rebellious from the pulpits as well as privately. People in the congregation and the world are told you are backslidden and they work to deprive you of any credibility because you do not abide by the rules THEY have made - not the Biblical rules.

God looks on.

God knows that He will judge us out of His book - not the Manual of any organization, not the by-laws of the church, not the book of criticism or the opinion of any national, district, or local official.

Hey, some of us die daily to our own flesh and because we are killed by those who are supposed to be watching our back.

HE was wounded and forsaken. If we are, we should not think it strange.

Anyway, God is good and opinion is just that - opinion.

Felicity · #**148** 07-21-2007, 01:34 PM

Even with the negatives that come with "organization and denomination" I'd rather be part of something that's got purpose, passion, vision, motivation and that is well organized than to be on my own or a group that is stagnant and seemingly without much passion.

stmatthew · #**149** 07-21-2007, 01:47 PM

Funny thing is that Preachers expect their folks to follow their "rules". What would some of you do if One of those on the platform decided to break your rules?? You would sit them down, wouldn't you?? Yet some licensed ministers think nothing of scoffing at the current governing rules within the Org they are a part of.

I personally think very little of someone that expects me to "toe the line" and then does not do so themselves.

StillStanding · #**150** 07-21-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew

Some want to play the "control" card.

Well, I will play my card too. This is not about advertising on tv to win the lost. It is a preacher feeling justified that either already has a tv, or plans to get one. It has nothing to do with souls. The Resolution does not even open up for a preacher to get a tv, so are all You preachers that have them in your home gonna follow the government that you have chosen to agree to and get rid of them??

Your counter argument is an example of the extreme????? You're saying that it is a chess game of sorts, and you know their intentions 3 or 4 moves in advance!

I don't doubt that there are some on the fringe that are looking for your mentioned excuse, but I honestly believe that you are waaaaaay off base here stating the objective for the majority of supporters of TV advertising.