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08-10-2007, 12:19 PM
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08-10-2007, 12:30 PM
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This is an interesting thread! I personally know of a pastor who was independently wealthy and refused to take a salary (from the tithes) from his congregation. One day the church treasurer came up to him and handed him a check from the church, he looked at it and questioned her as to what it was for. She responded that he was hindering the churches blessing by not accepting an offering from them. She stated that the Word of God talked about the blessings associated with taking care of the man of God, and that he was cutting off their blessings.
He began accepting the small offering that they were giving to him, and immediately the church began to prosper in every way. New souls were added, the churches finances grew miraculously, (even were able to pay off their 15 year mortgage within a couple of years), the overall physical health of the members was better etc.
Why would someone not want to support a pastor through tithing?
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08-10-2007, 12:33 PM
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In answer to the original question; would I attend a church that did not teach tithing? No because I would not want to attend a church where the blessings of God were absent or diminished because of disobedience.
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08-10-2007, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown
Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Sounds to me like Jesus is saying that they should pay tithe, but not neglect the rest of living for God.
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Originally Posted by COOPER
He said that because they were Hypocrites of the law.
And at that moment the Old Law was not yet fulfilled at the cross.
He could have very well said, You OUGHT to offer up Blood sacrifice.
Jesus did not teach Tithes to his followers.
He only spoke of tithes to Hypocrites.
 I am right,.....yes I am right! 
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Read the verse again. He states that they paid tithe, but did not follow the major aspects of the Law, or judgment, mercy and faith. This encompasses much more than just the Law. It has to do with mercy and faith also.
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08-10-2007, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bishoph
In answer to the original question; would I attend a church that did not teach tithing? No because I would not want to attend a church where the blessings of God were absent or diminished because of disobedience.
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First off it is not a command to be considered dis-obedience.
Give and you will be blessed yes.
But not required if you do not tithe.
I did did not say the Pastor should refuse any one giving.
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08-10-2007, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by COOPER
Would attend an "apostolic" church that did not require or teach tithing?
What if the Pastor was a wealthy business man and financed it all?
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sure would, better then one that requires it as a commandment.
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08-10-2007, 12:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Brown
Read the verse again. He states that they paid tithe, but did not follow the major aspects of the Law, or judgment, mercy and faith. This encompasses much more than just the Law. It has to do with mercy and faith also.
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Jesus was rebuking the stubborn, thick headed, hypocritical Priest that loved to twist the law for their own glory and benefit.
Jesus did not ever teach tithes........ever.
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08-10-2007, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
To be Apostolic it must continue in the Apostle's doctrine and the teachings of Jesus. Since tithing was taught by Jesus and the Apostles a church that does not teach tithing is NOT an Apostolic church.
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wrong, no where was tithes taught by Jesus and the apostles, absolutely no where.
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08-10-2007, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Yes we have been through this and BOTH Jesus and the Apostles taught and practiced tithing.
It was an agricultural society mostlty pay the light company a bushel of corn or buy your gas with a sack of tomatoes.
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practiced tithing?? scripture please.
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08-10-2007, 12:56 PM
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I realize there are other threads that address this issue, however, are you suggesting that just because you see it as an OT commandment that it has no relevance in the NT Church? In other words are you one who believes that the OT was done away with when Jesus Christ came so nothing in the OT is applicable today?
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