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Old 08-15-2007, 09:25 PM
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As important as Charles Fox Parham was to Pentecost in general he was not a Oneness.
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DM, this explains it.
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As important as Charles Fox Parham was to Pentecost in general he was not a Oneness.
Yes I know he was Trinity.
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DM, this explains it.
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which article? are all of them related to this issue?
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which article? are all of them related to this issue?
Not all of them are related to this issue.
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This site explains this stuff.
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what is British Israelism? Is that like replacement theology with Britain instead of the church or does it just refer to the monarchy?


In essence: the "10 Tribes" of the Northern Kingdom of Israel wandered from their Assyrian captivity through modern day Russia and Europe to become the "Anglo-Saxon" barbarian invaders of Roman era Britannia. So, modern Brits are in fact the blood descendants of Omri, Ahab, Jezebel and the like. For this reason, the British can claim a real inheritance to God's promises for a "restored" Israel. All of the prophecies of a future restoration were fulfilled when the British Empire stretched across the globe. It was at this time that "true Israel" was "blessing" the nations.

There are scriptural texts and historical coincidences that are called upon as "proof." Jacob had said that the tribe of Dan would leave a mark like a serpent across the globe. This is why, we are told, that you find so many place names with the word "Dan" in it. Places like DANmark and LonDAN (London - they really make that claim!).

Of course there is no explanation for how Hannah (or Anna) of Luke's Gospel could have found herself at Jerusalem in the 1st Century. According to Luke she was of the tribe of Naphtali and this tribe and its descendants should have been in Northern Europe at that time, not in Jerusalem.

Several other scriptures cannot be reconciled like in Chronicles where Ezekiel's prophecies of restoration are fulfilled, naming the return of the specific "lost" tribes. I've got a key set up in my old study Bible just for this topic. Let me know if you want better details, I can post when I get home.
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In essence: the "10 Tribes" of the Northern Kingdom of Israel wandered from their Assyrian captivity through modern day Russia and Europe to become the "Anglo-Saxon" barbarian invaders of Roman era Britannia. So, modern Brits are in fact the blood descendants of Omri, Ahab, Jezebel and the like. For this reason, the British can claim a real inheritance to God's promises for a "restored" Israel. All of the prophecies of a future restoration were fulfilled when the British Empire stretched across the globe. It was at this time that "true Israel" was "blessing" the nations.

There are scriptural texts and historical coincidences that are called upon as "proof." Jacob had said that the tribe of Dan would leave a mark like a serpent across the globe. This is why, we are told, that you find so many place names with the word "Dan" in it. Places like DANmark and LonDAN (London - they really make that claim!).

Of course there is no explanation for how Hannah (or Anna) of Luke's Gospel could have found herself at Jerusalem in the 1st Century. According to Luke she was of the tribe of Naphtali and this tribe and its descendants should have been in Northern Europe at that time, not in Jerusalem.

Several other scriptures cannot be reconciled like in Chronicles where Ezekiel's prophecies of restoration are fulfilled, naming the return of the specific "lost" tribes. I've got a key set up in my old study Bible just for this topic. Let me know if you want better details, I can post when I get home.
interesting, sounds like mormon theology. Are the ten tribes really lost? what tribe do all the jews of Israel, Europe and America claim to be from? seems like the cohen/levi tribes are intact. all the rest of modern day jews surely can't be from the Aaronic line. They must be from the "lost ten".
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I forgot brother Miller's first name but he is from Ireland. He was for a time an official (in the 90s) a UPCI official in Hazelwood. Once he and I were talking in a Restaurant upon which occasion I happened to ask him, recalling that he was from Ireland, if he believed the British Israel doctrine. With the rolling tongue and Irish accent he said that he believed it even down to the marrow of his bones.

I asked him if he were not a member of a very small minority that believed it. He said that I would be surprised. It left me wondering.

Many years ago, there were questions in my mind about that doctrine since I had read Thedore Fitch's book on the subject. I decided to do a study of my own from which I became convinced that it is error...certainly not an error that would cause one to be lost, but error none the less. Actually, the doctrine is racist in its fundamental beliefs. Ted Fitch was a racist in the truest sense of the word.
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You can read about a version of this doctrine at this link. This is the book written by Herbert W. Armstrong. A man with truly some of the strangest beliefs I have ever heard of in my life...........
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