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Old 09-14-2007, 08:24 PM
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Turn off the spell checker there, bother. You're merging my persona with The Explorer.

I'm a "stay-at-home dad!"
Dude you do have a plethora of issues!
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Dude you do have issues!
uhm... you made me laugh? That's an "issue?"
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:38 PM
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uhm... you made me laugh? That's an "issue?"
uh..., mine was a joke - life is too short to post smilies on every post
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uh..., mine was a joke - life is too short to post smilies on every post
Are you trying to make me feel like a sissy for using the smilies?

Oh wait... the irony is working on layers that I hadn't even imagined yet. You sir, are a fine wit. I'll go back to eating my cold vegetables (no smilies there!)
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Having been around OP's for over fifty years and now having been fellowshipping with many other Christians. I have observed an interesting phenomenon, that those who embrace the Word and declare Jesus Lord, I don't see any significance difference in the results in their lives.

Healing> no difference.
Changed lives, other than outward appearances> no difference.
Love of God> no difference
Love for the Word of God> maybe stronger among non OP's.
Love of each other> no difference.

So is the proclaimed "greater power" in the lives of OP's just believing their own press, or is there real difference? After fifty+ years I say the Word in folks lives makes the difference not the OP's doctrine.
The Difference Between One God Pentecostals and the "Other" Christians?















ONE GOD PENTECOSTALS ARE SAVED!!!!!
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ONE GOD PENTECOSTALS ARE SAVED!!!!!
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The Difference Between One God Pentecostals and the "Other" Christians?




ONE GOD PENTECOSTALS ARE SAVED!!!!!
E.B.!! You da bomb!

But, what about the OP's with Clarence Larkin charts on their living room walls?
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The Difference Between One God Pentecostals and the "Other" Christians?

ONE GOD PENTECOSTALS ARE SAVED!!!!!




The discussion was not about salvation, my friend! Care to actually engage the discussion?
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The discussion was not about salvation, my friend! Care to actually engage the discussion?
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Healing> no difference.
Buddhists, New Agers, and Wiccans also claim miraculous healing. Mormons light up when you ask them about miraculous healing. Lubavitch Chabad, also claim the power to heal, when they pray. One should be careful when they think that miracles are the sign of being in line with God and His truths.
Please keep in mind that the magicians who withstood Moses turned their canes into serpents also, but Aaron and Moses' rod swallowed up the magician’s rods. CJ, the inevitable is that it is always about salvation.

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Changed lives, other than outward appearances> no difference.
I remember a gentleman whom when I lived in New York converted to Lubavitch Hasidic Jewry. He use to be a heroin junkie, and all around loser, and the Lubavitch helped him to his act together. I have seen it with Jehovah Witness, Buddhism, Islam, New Age, and Mormonism. Apostolic Pentecostalism is more than just being a good citizen, and helping little old ladies across the road, it's a way of life that leads us to heaven.

Rehabilitation is not a sign of being in good standings or the power of God in a person’s life. I have seen people behave themselves in all walks of life.

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Love of God> no difference
Who determines that? I remember when thousands of people claimed that Jimmy Swaggart had great love of God, but he was not loving God in motels in Baton Rouge. When a person has love for God they will continue their search until they find all that God has for them. They will not stay in mainstream Trinitarian, ho hum.


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Love for the Word of God> maybe stronger among non OP's.
You were correct in your choice to use the word "maybe" because you are making a statement that has no way of being proven. CJ, think about what you're saying. They love the word STRONGER than One God people? Were you trying to edify One God believers by making that statement?

I'm amazed at how some try to subtily kick each others teeth out with these threads, but when some individuals pull the hammers out and start pounding a few nails back in their place. Then the banning begins.
CJ, you been around Apostolic for 55 years and this is what she gets?

CJ, the Brothers and Sisters I fellowship with are the most studious individuals I know. The pastors and preachers I speak with are constantly in their Word. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but America is religiously ignorant. For a country that leads the world in religious freedom we sure don't take advantage of our privilege. I'm in Bible study in public everyday, and I'm blown away by the lack of knowledge that PASTORS, and PREACHERS, who are Trinitarian, have about the Bible and Christian history.

CJ, God bless your heart Brother, but I just don't understand why you are making these statements. If these people who you are fawning over are so much in love with the Word, then why are they so stuck in their denominational dogmas? Do they all have the revelation that YOU do?


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Love of each other> no difference.
Brother CJ, please don't take offence to what I'm about to say but the above statement wins you a Big Fat Brooklyn Zero. Please, Brother, Love for each other? You know how many non-Christian groups have a love for each other? Does that make them stronger, more right, and more correct?

Homosexuals, Lesbians, and Transgender people sure work together intensely to change the culture of this nation (starting with the cities first) and does that make them correct? Do they posses some supernatural power from God?

Brother CJ, it starts and ends with ONE thing, and that ONE thing is the Word of God. If you are off concerning that then you can love each other, and have pizza party Bible discussions until you grow old and gray, and you will be as lost as a goose in a wind storm.


The Lord bless you and your family.

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My observation is that you can make the Bible say anything you want it to say to support the position you have taken. That is why Christianity is so deep in the "doo doo" of divisive issues that most unbelievers have a difficult time finding their way to the cross and a relationship with Jesus Christ. Most Pentecostals are much more interested in arguing over words and issues than winning people to Jesus Christ. If someone does occasionally find Christ and begin attending church they soon discover that it's issues that dominate in most churches, not the exaltation of Jesus Christ.
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