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[Thad]

Cons are planning an over throw~~~~!!!!

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[CC1]

philjones,

Your logic is the same faulty logic that shyster Black civil rights activists use. They say that a white man cannot represent or understand a black man because they are not black.

With your logic the only valid theologians then are those that have been involved in gross sin? A person who is just a regular "sinner" cannot understand God's word and Christianity? Hogwash!! I am very surprised at the shallowness of this thinking from you.

It is the same logic someones little brudder used way back on FCF or NFCF. They thought they knew everything because they had been either a drug addict or alcoholic and those of us that had not did not understand standards, doctrine, the need for legalism, etc. Very cultic.

[dizzyde]

[QUOTE=BoredOutOfMyMind;256035]Those DVD's spread about by card carrying preachers state volumes more than the text ad issue you proposed.


Seriously????????? What do they speak volumes of? Please explain, because I can't quite wrap my brain around that.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by CC1

philjones,

Your logic is the same faulty logic that shyster Black civil rights activists use. They say that a white man cannot represent or understand a black man because they are not black.

With your logic the only valid theologians then are those that have been involved in gross sin? A person who is just a regular "sinner" cannot understand God's word and Christianity? Hogwash!! I am very surprised at the shallowness of this thinking from you.

It is the same logic someones little brudder used way back on FCF or NFCF. They thought they knew everything because they had been either a drug addict or alcoholic and those of us that had not did not understand standards, doctrine, the need for legalism, etc. Very cultic.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by philjones

1) The post you quoted was not directed at you.

2) In the post that was directed your way, I was in no way down playing your life changing experience... everyone that is saved has one. I was simply asking your frame of reference and letting you know mine. I never once said you had not been saved from anything.

3) In the post you quoted I WAS specifically addressing CC1 and his safe haven of conservativism statement which implies and HE MEANS to belittle and throw stones.

4) You need to reread the post and then understand that what I was doing with the statements that appeared to be an attack was making equally inflammatory remarks (that I do not believe) as a reflection of the way CC1's remarks make me feel.

5) CC1 and I go toe to toe often and though we don't agree we still love one another as brothers in the Lord. AT least I hope he still loves me.

6) I apologize if you feel that I have besmirched you or belittled your salvation experience. I hope that you go back and re-read the posts in the light of my comments above.

7) This is a forum and I believe it is all Apostolics and I post many things that you and others may find controversial. The reason is I am called to try to maintain balance on some of these threads lest they become impossible to navigate because of the greasy slip and slide mingled with the blood of the conservatives.

BTW... as a throw back to a former poster... my name is Phil and only IAM can and does get away with calling me Philly!

Philly, I mean Philtor, um Phil, I was addressing your post to him because it confirms what I have been saying the whole time. You have said things about my coming to God and your being sooo deep into sin. That is why I responded to your post.

Originally Posted by philjones

I am sorry that you have a reading comprehension problem or perhaps it is that you choose to read everything through eyes of bias.

Let me see if I can make this clear to you. I know, by CC1's own testimony that he has never really left the church and wandered out into the depths of sin. Based on that fact, he has no frame of reference to say why I choose to live my life the way I do.

As for legalism... you are full of hooey!

I am probably equally tolerant if not more tolerant than you! I do not have a frame of reference to judge you... nor you me and I won't just lay there and say woe is me.

What was the saying in the American Revolution... "don't tread on me". That is how I feel. I will let you follow your heart and I will follow mine but I will not let you or CC1 or anyone else hang a tag or a motivation on me when you have no idea what you are talking about.

Brother it seems as if you have no clue what you are talking about. Honestly even though CC1 has not left the church the whole time does not negate what he has done in life. I am not out to defend CC1. I am not trying to down play your life either. Brother, it is not your job to judge people. You know what though you are doing so by what you are saying, that Philly is elitism.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by CC1

philjones,

Your logic is the same faulty logic that shyster Black civil rights activists use. They say that a white man cannot represent or understand a black man because they are not black.

With your logic the only valid theologians then are those that have been involved in gross sin? A person who is just a regular "sinner" cannot understand God's word and Christianity? Hogwash!! I am very surprised at the shallowness of this thinking from you.

It is the same logic someones little brudder used way back on FCF or NFCF. They thought they knew everything because they had been either a drug addict or alcoholic and those of us that had not did not understand standards, doctrine, the need for legalism, etc. Very cultic.

CC1 get me a

Originally Posted by philjones

That is what I find funny in your assertion... I am in NO WAY legalistic in my approach to living for God. I follow the guiding of the Holy Spirit and then use common sense in the areas where the Holy Ghost has not directed me.

Perhaps if you had ever been a hard core sinner you would understand. Having not been, your opinions and a quarter might get you a spoonful of sugar for a $2 cup of coffee. You simply do not have the ability to make a valid judgement on men like Elder Benincasa or myself... no matter how smug and self righteous you feel as you pass judgement.

lol...

So because you had no self-control when you were in the world, you think your opinion is more valid than other people's?? Give me a break...

I also find it funny how anyone who agrees with you is suddenly this unquestionable "elder" just because they agree with you... and its funny that you refer to him as an elder and then call someone else self-righteous, AT BEST that's the pot calling the kettle black...

Originally Posted by philjones

I am sorry that you have a reading comprehension problem or perhaps it is that you choose to read everything through eyes of bias.

Let me see if I can make this clear to you. I know, by CC1's own testimony that he has never really left the church and wandered out into the depths of sin. Based on that fact, he has no frame of reference to say why I choose to live my life the way I do.

As for legalism... you are full of hooey!

I am probably equally tolerant if not more tolerant than you! I do not have a frame of reference to judge you... nor you me and I won't just lay there and say woe is me.

What was the saying in the American Revolution... "don't tread on me". That is how I feel. I will let you follow your heart and I will follow mine but I will not let you or CC1 or anyone else hang a tag or a motivation on me when you have no idea what you are talking about.

you don't have to go do a bunch of bad stuff to know what is bad and what is not...

[SoCaliUPC]

If no one answered...I never did see Nate Wilson there. I did see Myles.

Originally Posted by CC1

philjones,

Your logic is the same faulty logic that shyster Black civil rights activists use. They say that a white man cannot represent or understand a black man because they are not black.

With your logic the only valid theologians then are those that have been involved in gross sin? A person who is just a regular "sinner" cannot understand God's word and Christianity? Hogwash!! I am very surprised at the shallowness of this thinking from you.

It is the same logic someones little brudder used way back on FCF or NFCF. They thought they knew everything because they had been either a drug addict or alcoholic and those of us that had not did not understand standards, doctrine, the need for legalism, etc. Very cultic.

CC1,

Are you blind or are you just choosing not to read what I am posting?

I am telling you that you have no idea why I am conservative. You assert that folks like me or Benincasa are conservative because we find it to be a "safe haven" as though we are using our consecration as a hiding place so we don't have to face the real world.

You, sir, are not in a position to determine that. If you think you are then you are filled with a spirit of self righteous elitism. I am not a "I see a legalist behind every bush" person like JTullock, so I won't say that you are legalistic in your attitude. However, if JTullock measured you like he measures everyone else HE would probably call you a judgmental legalist!

You guys can't see the forest for the trees so I give up! Wander on from tree to tree and I will recognized that each tree is a part of the forest. I will maintain my balance and call you brother and value your contributions to the kingdom and you keep on vilifying and belittling every conservative as some weak, insipid loser who is hiding behind the skirts of separation.

Excuse me while I go throw up!