Ezek 16:8-17 - Page 6

SDG · #51 03-04-2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

Most would agree that this verse is addressing an excessive focus on these things and not the abolition of their use. Second witness is I Peter 3.3; "Do not let your adornment be merely outward--arranging the hair, wearing of gold, or the putting on of apparel--rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God.

These scriptures to not abolish the use of jewelry, wearing of clothes, but it is telling us to be real and authentic wouldn't you agree?

Crakjak .. I don't see any thou shalts .. in these verses ... Peter never says don't do it ...

#52 03-04-2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

You're missing the point ... aren't you Theo ... you're argument about jewelry is based on prooftext ... and tradition ...

It's based on the Word of God, something you've displayed little knowledge of here again.

Steve Epley · #53 03-04-2007, 10:48 PM

What part of "NOT" do you not understand????????????????????

SDG · #54 03-04-2007, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Theophilus

It's based on the Word of God, something you've displayed little knowledge of here again.

A text with out a context is a pretext for proof text ... You've ignored historical and cultural context Theo .. you are lacking ....

crakjak · #55 03-04-2007, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Theophilus

Bogus, it is in it's full context save to those that disregard it. There is no endorsement otherwise. Our Jewel fest is waiting on down the road, but for now we obey the Word of God and maintain a restraint for the things of this world. That which awaits us makes the things of this world look like dime store renditions. I'll obey the Word and practice delayed gratification.

Furthermore, consider:

1 Peter 3:3

1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. 3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

Likewise our current apparel will be cheap by comparison, so "off with those clothes folks." These verses are very clearly not abolishing the current use of these things.

crakjak · #56 03-04-2007, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Crakjak .. I don't see any thou shalts .. in these verses ... Peter never says don't do it ...

You did read my posts???

#57 03-04-2007, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

Most would agree that this verse is addressing an excessive focus on these things and not the abolition of their use. Second witness is I Peter 3.3; "Do not let your adornment be merely outward--arranging the hair, wearing of gold, or the putting on of apparel--rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God.

These scriptures to not abolish the use of jewelry, wearing of clothes, but it is telling us to be real and authentic wouldn't you agree?

Merely is not in the Greek. You've a wishful translation.

Peter is saying: Let it not be.

Simple.

Neck · #58 03-04-2007, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Theophilus

Bogus, it is in it's full context save to those that disregard it. There is no endorsement otherwise. Our Jewel fest is waiting on down the road, but for now we obey the Word of God and maintain a restraint for the things of this world. That which awaits us makes the things of this world look like dime store renditions. I'll obey the Word and practice delayed gratification.

Furthermore, consider:

1 Peter 3:3

1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. 3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

It is the most vial spaces, causes many men to seek perversion. It brings to the looking eye all the pride and lust of the flesh.

It is home to $10 Billion dollars per year in the US. Some estimate... it brings in some 48 Billion world wide.

It is one of the single reasons for deprevation in our new age culture.

Yet you and all of us use it each and everyday.

It is the Internet.

Along with all the perversions and sin.

We find ourselves talking about the things of God.

SO more that the wearing of earings and a necklace.

You have already gone down the super highway.

You have learned how to use the internet for spiritual gain.

So as do some in moderation with their apparel.

There is more temptation on the internet.

It has destroyed many a Christian home.

If we could find out...

We all know someone who's marriage or spiritual life has been derailed be the internet........

For some it is like their first drink or cocain snort.

crakjak · #59 03-04-2007, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

What part of "NOT" do you not understand????????????????????

Now Bro. Steve, I see you are still wearing apparel.

#60 03-04-2007, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

Likewise our current apparel will be cheap by comparison, so "off with those clothes folks." These verses are very clearly not abolishing the current use of these things.

They certainly are. We find it twice, by two seperate Apostles. Buuuttt, do what ya like right?

Are we to go naked? Is this not the desperate extent of your reach both in word and reason?