I didn't say it was sin, but I thought is was overdone. Hey, we all have our preferences, I think you know what I mean. If we are going to condemn a little jewelry, let's be consistent and condemn the overdone.
You thought it was overdone, so if the men took off their ties or the ladies let their hair down it would be acceptable to you?
I know you all have heard more standards theads then ya can shake a stick at but I am honestly trying to get a better understanding, so please help me out with the below scripture. Thanks
Ezek 16:8-17
8 Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine.
9 Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil.
10 I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk.
11 I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck.
12 And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head.
13 Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom.
14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD. 15 But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.
16 And of thy garments thou didst take, and deckedst thy high places with divers colours, and playedst the harlot thereupon: the like things shall not come, neither shall it be so.
17 Thou hast also taken thy fair jewels of my gold and of my silver, which I had given thee, and madest to thyself images of men, and didst commit whoredom with them,KJV
If ornaments are so wrong why did God say I decked thee with ornaments, bracelets, necklace and even earrings??
go back and read verses 15-17
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Verses 15 - 17 don't negate vss. 14-16. The fact is God is the One ........ it was He Himself who covered her, washed her, anointed her, clothed her, shod her, girded her and decked her with jewelry and crowned her.
It wasn't what God did for her that was the problem. It was her own attitude that became the problem and then the actions that resulted.
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Just putting my two cents worth in from here in Cairo, Egypt. Felicity has hit the nail on the head. It's not the jewelry folks, it's the attitude that we have toward God and the things of God. It is true that God often blesses His people and then they turn away from God and bring Jesus Christ to open shame by the way that they live before the world.
Pride is still one of the most damning sins of the Christian today as it was in the OT. It's usually not the things that man owns that does him in (such as jewelry), it's what owns him that usually becomes his downfall.
My wife can have her jewelry, (which is not very expensive), as long as it doesn't become something that possesses her to the point that she is lifted up in pride by what she wears, or she just has to have some piece of jewelry, etc. to feel complete.
Jewelry has no place on a woman or man. Our jewels are in our crown which we shall receive in glory. I have no need of gold down here, because it perishes, and the only reason one wears jewels is to make one look wealthier. It is a pride issue, and that pride must be cast out, so the modesty of the Spirit of a true believer can shew through.
With that said we can come up with a figurative Analogy for anything in the bible. We sometimes place too much stock in what some 13th century writer told us a passage represents.
The tabernacle in the wilderness has great analogies for us today.
It was also a literal place....
Nathan Eckstadt
No, we can't! The language of prophecy is inherently different from the language of the rest of scripture. It is often figurative whereas the vast majority of the rest of scripture is simple narrative ("In the beginning, God created...," "Abraham begat Isaac...," "Repent, and believe ye the gospel," etc.). The imagery in so much of prophecy is so obviously intended to mean things other than the images themselves (the "dragon" in Revelation, for example, is said to be Satan; the jewels, etc. in Ezekiel 16:8-17 do not refer to literal jewels and wealth, and so on).
As for some 13th century writer, I don't know who you're referring to and, frankly, I resent you making such statements!
There is a tendency to try and "spiritualize" just about everything in the Old Testament. The tabernacle is exactly what it is: a literal place. You cannot apply it to anything else unless the New Testament does so.
Jewelry has no place on a woman or man. Our jewels are in our crown which we shall receive in glory. I have no need of gold down here, because it perishes, and the only reason one wears jewels is to make one look wealthier. It is a pride issue, and that pride must be cast out, so the modesty of the Spirit of a true believer can shew through.
That's your opinion, and your preference, which I can respect, but just don't say it's a sin to wear jewelry because God does not say that it is a sin. Yes, it can become a pride issue, but so can knowledge, so perhaps we shouldn't have knowledge, right?
[QUOTE=Truly Blessed;29121]That's your opinion, and your preference, which I can respect, but just don't say it's a sin to wear jewelry because God does not say that it is a sin. Yes, it can become a pride issue, but so can knowledge, so perhaps we shouldn't have knowledge, right?[/QUOTE]
i've heard some preach that too!!!!!lol
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I didn't say it was sin, but I thought is was overdone. Hey, we all have our preferences, I think you know what I mean. If we are going to condemn a little jewelry, let's be consistent and condemn the overdone.
Crakjak, if you had said you went to lunch on a tuesday afternoon, and seen such a thing, you would have an arguement. some of us still think it is nice to wear our "Sunday go to meeting" clothes, on sunday....
I know we live in the super casual world of microwave America, but please there is a reason why we call it our "Sunday best".
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You simply can not prove that your assumptions. Every minister that has preached against Jewelery has stated that is a look of the world. Then worldly things lead to sin.
There simply is not a mandate in scripture for not wearing jewlery.
And so on....
what ever bro, all I am saying to you is that you cannot use the internet argument to suggest that it is ok to wear jewlery. that is apples and space rockets.
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