UPC Pastor Advertises on TV for Biker's Sunday!!!!!

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Steadfast

They are trying to convert with a 'social' gospel instead of transform with a 'moral' gospel. And, yes, it is sad.

Reaching the lost is a mandate. We have to do it or we're in trouble on Judgment Day. I've not a singe problem with reaching the lost but somewhere there has to be an encounter with a transforming Almighty.

This is why the other post about 'can't tell Saint from sinner' drew quick fire (although it was later explained). I have MANY who look like rank sinners because they have only been in the Church a few weeks. However, the mature Church looks like the Church... no mistaking that!

I'm all for gimmicks (without lying or going against what I've agreed to by being a part of a certain organization) and I utilize lots of things. I wouldn't be against Biker Sunday / Friend Sunday / Special Days... (Okay, admittedly no Super Bowl will ever be seen in my sanctuary!) but the bottom line is that Pentcost better never make the mistake of the false doctrine Churches that think a 'social' gospel will glean the same results as a 'moral' gospel.

You are saying something I really feel strong about as well.

My opinion is when we lose the Power we then need the gimmicks.

Disclaimer: Not saying that is the problem here. Just seeing a trend of this.

[Esther]

Thad is this the same church that just had a liberal singing reunion?

[deltaguitar]

This church recently had a biker sunday. I was a little suprised and inspired when I read this. Maybe the UPC has a chance after all.

http://www.fpcjackson.com/html/biker_sunday2006_10.html

Originally Posted by IAintMovin

We do sign an agreement with the UPCI that states that we will abide by the guidelines in the AOF. One of which is that there will be no TV advertising (at this time). IMHO when you break that agreement you are lying, pure and simple. Revelation 21:8.

I know certain ones who will say yahoooo....to those who lie, I for one do not.

When and if it is changed in the AOF - then I will say to that pastor, I am all for it, but till then, there is nothing in the Bible about advertising on TV, but there is something in the Bible about lying. Pure and simple.

I have no problem with the ad, I have a problem with the lie.

Maybe he sent a disclaimer in with his signed agreement?? Have no clue- just throwing that out there...I know some do this regarding the tv issue...

[IAintMovin]

Originally Posted by Annie

Maybe he sent a disclaimer in with his signed agreement?? Have no clue- just throwing that out there...I know some do this regarding the tv issue...

Does not matter, you AGREE with you join, if your agreement changes, you need to leave.

Disclaimer means nothing - still just a simple lie.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Esther

Thad is this the same church that just had a liberal singing reunion?

[Thad]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

This church recently had a biker sunday. I was a little suprised and inspired when I read this. Maybe the UPC has a chance after all.

http://www.fpcjackson.com/html/biker_sunday2006_10.html

a chance ? what do you mean by that ?

Originally Posted by IAintMovin

Does not matter, you AGREE with you join, if your agreement changes, you need to leave.

Disclaimer means nothing - still just a simple lie.

I understand.

[South of I 90]

Originally Posted by Thad

HONOR thy mother and father ......

never said honor the scoocer team and the bikers club.

You're right.

However; I don't think a specialized service every now in then is such a bad idea.

All depends on the diversity of the city the church is located.

[deltaguitar]

Originally Posted by Thad

a chance ? what do you mean by that ?

Maybe, a chance for some common sense.

I would have never guessed that FPC would have a biker sunday. I think it is a great idea.