Since all skin contains pigment....all are considered "persons of color".
If by "color" you are referring to African-Americans....as an African-American I find the term "color" to be offensive. Yet, in any case; the comment is not "construed differently". People of all ethnicities make statements that are offensive, even at times against those of the same ethnicity.
As a Hispanic from the Caribbean w/ African blood ... I don't find the term offensive. Neither does the NAACP. Glad we can agree to disagree.
Historically and in the present-day vernacular, it refers to non-Caucasian.
Since all skin contains pigment....all are considered "persons of color".
If by "color" you are referring to African-Americans....as an African-American I find the term "color" to be offensive. Yet, in any case; the comment is not "construed differently". People of all ethnicities make statements that are offensive, even at times against those of the same ethnicity.
I attended a "whites only" type of Apostolic Church when I first came to the Lord. I was, sad to say, raised to be racist, even before I got in Church. The church was one of those OneGod, Apostolic Jesus Name, All trinitarians are lost kinds of churches. I prayed and prayed to receive the Holy Ghost but could not pray thru if my life depended on it. RW Schambach came to town and I attended. During the meeting, surrounded by Afro-Americans and Hispanics (whites were in the minority) I recieved the Holy Ghost. It took that to help me to "lay aside the weights" of racial and religious bigotry so I could recieve the promise of the Holy Ghost. Now, I look at all Spirit-filled believers as brothers and sisters in the Lord (without looking at the skin color OR their denominational credentials).
"For by ONE SPIRIT are we ALL Baptized into One Body...."
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Waiting for the Lord is easy... Waiting patiently? Not so much.
Since all skin contains pigment....all are considered "persons of color".
If by "color" you are referring to African-Americans....as an African-American I find the term "color" to be offensive. Yet, in any case; the comment is not "construed differently". People of all ethnicities make statements that are offensive, even at times against those of the same ethnicity.
Somehow this thread has taken a sad turn...
But I must say, it's hard as a "white" person to know exactly what to say these days and be politically correct...
I thought Dan saying "persons of color" was being politically correct, I'm sure that's all he was trying to do.
You have to see it from the other side of the coin... I don't have a racist bone in my body and yet I would use the term "black person or colored person" without thinking anything of it.
That said.. Praise Hymn.. I think Thad is right, the facial hair issue isn't like it used to be, although I don't know of any of our licenced preachers who don't stay clean shaven... traditions don't change over night. I personally like a clean shaven preacher... something about it. Goatee's.. well... I'll just leave my personal opinion in between my ears for now.
Our ministers don't wear robes though...
Licenced UPC preachers are also asked not to have a television in their homes... another thing that may change since now they can advertise on them. (someone correct me if I'm wrong and that rule HAS changed already)
Many UPC saints have tv's in their home these days, like you say, hopefully they are all letting the Holy Ghost tell them what they can and can't watch.
So in all your questions, do you mind if I ask you one? Why do you wear robes?
Welcome to AFF.
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Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
I attended a "whites only" type of Apostolic Church when I first came to the Lord. I was, sad to say, raised to be racist, even before I got in Church. The church was one of those OneGod, Apostolic Jesus Name, All trinitarians are lost kinds of churches. I prayed and prayed to receive the Holy Ghost but could not pray thru if my life depended on it. RW Schambach came to town and I attended. During the meeting, surrounded by Afro-Americans and Hispanics (whites were in the minority) I recieved the Holy Ghost. It took that to help me to "lay aside the weights" of racial and religious bigotry so I could recieve the promise of the Holy Ghost. Now, I look at all Spirit-filled believers as brothers and sisters in the Lord (without looking at the skin color OR their denominational credentials).
"For by ONE SPIRIT are we ALL Baptized into One Body...."
I attend an Apostolic, One God, Jesus Name, predominately white (our drummer and song leader is black and our choir director is a monekyman) church in the heart of a predominately white provice.... and people are getting the Holy Ghost left and right here...
If God wasn't pouring out His Spirit at your church it must have been the racisim he had the problem with... not the doctrine.
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Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
Everyone needs to just worship with their OWN kind, keep it simple.
Truthseeker!!!!! Just what kind of "truth" are you seeking????
I serve the way, the TRUTH and the life. And the TRUTH that I serve loves everyone - and doesn't even see the pigment of their skin!
Shame on you!! For you to make a statement like this is a slap in the face to the God who made us all and loves us all.
I'm not usually in the habit of praying that God convicts someone of their sin. But I am praying that for you. You've made me sad. I don't even have to wonder how you've broken the heart of God.
Why do I (we) wear robes?
In all honesty, out of tradition (plus we look good in them). In the African American church, we love to "dress up" for church. Preachers wear robes as a status symbol. A shepheard. A person who is in charge, who leads, who is a person of authority and to be respected (just like how a judge wears a black robe). Its not a requirement. Its not a heaven or hell issue. Its just a tradition. Just like African Americans and womens church hats. Our women just love to dress up and put a hat on to make the outfit more lavish or outstanding. Again, just tradition. Clergy collars to us are not catholic. Back in the day, when people were beheaded for the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, in order for them to survive an execution, the people would put a metal shank around there kneck and wrap a white scarf or sheet around there kneck so that it would hide the metal shank. When the axe would come down to behead the person, it would get stuck and there head COULD NOT be chopped off. Its a symbol of a person who defends the faith (in the Lord Jesus Christ). Catholics and Protestans alike where it and it has nothing to do with being trinitarian or oneness. Just like the nuns habit has nothing to do with being catholic. Our women in our church cover there heads too and we did not get it from the catholic church. Just an FYI. Google clergy collar and read up on the history of it.
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The term "Free Persons of Colour" first appeared during colonial times (1600-1800s). It was applied to a variety of ethnic people, to include Black, Native American, Portuguese, Sephardic Jews, Greeks, Romanians, Moors, Arabs, Asiatic Indians* and Pakistanis* (*who were here as early as the mid 1600s from England, usually as indentured servants), and varied others including mixed races. The common denominator was skin darker than Northern Europeans. The term "colored" generated from this catagorization, to mainly indicated those of African ancestry, but to include any person of darker complexion.
The term people of color in the United States
It is difficult to discuss this term without the discussions of power and privilege. This term has very different meanings in different countries and contexts. Some find this term as offensive as the term colored, on the grounds that it fixes whites as the benchmark for racial division, fostering an "us versus them" view of race relations. Proponents of the term maintain that that the term minority suffers moreso from these drawbacks; many of its proponents believe that "people of color" refers to an identity borne out of shared struggle. They also support the acknowledgement that those who wield power and who benefit from racial privilege in a racist society, as such proponents[attribution needed] assume the United States to be, are primarily white.
The historical term free people of color refers to people of African descent during slavery who lived in freedom. A related term from the time of slavery is gens de couleur, a French expression that refers to the free descendants of white French colonists and Africans. Because so many of these people had mixed African and European ancestry, they are sometimes labeled mulatto. They are also sometimes referred to as affranchis.
Some struggle to identify with the term, arguing the word color merely refers to level of skin melanin, and so fails to define correctly those who are not noticeably non-white or whose racial background includes both races of white and non-white. It should be further noted that terms such as colored people or people of color are technically misnomers; most white people have color in their skin as well, with the exception of albinos.
The term women of color has been embraced and used to replace the term minority women. Some also prefer the term of color to the term minorityobjectification. because they see the latter as describing a stance of subjugation and
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Albeit, I accept that some may be uncomfortable w/ the term ...person of color... but it is used even among the most politically liberal.
Having been raised in New York City ... taught in a Junior High School for almost 9 years in the city w/ predominantly West Indian population ... studied in a liberal bastion of the City University ... and having African roots because of the mixture of races on the islands of Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic ... I am confident that the term is in no way POLITICALLY INCORRECT as it is used among those who share a common struggle today.
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