I don't think that they do it as a dedication to God, but just to be seperated by looking holy, (because someone told them too) without thinking of it as a living sacrifice, or doing everything as unto the Lord.
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'scuse me but why are you so intent on stating that no one does "it" as dedication when I have several times throughout this forum, on related threads, stated that I DO both cover my heads and have long hair as a consecration to GOD as well as obedience? certainly NOT for to look 'holy' or for 'seperation' purposes it goes much deeper than that but how would you know; I suggest that instead of just thinkin find out from someone who does follow this 'standard'(s)., and forsake the innuendos.
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It's too bad that so much goes into holiness and seperation, and not enough into dedication, know what I mean?
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Same ones that don't know which bathroom to go into unless there are stick figures on the door? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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To start with,the covering (veiling with a cloth veil) of women only when praying and prophesying was and still is a Jewish custom that was carried into the church.Even to this day Jewish women still veil their heads when they pray.This veiling is not the veiling with hair when praying.It is with a veil cloth that covers the whole head only when praying and prophesying.Even if it was talking about a womans hair hanging down for a veiling she is only to be veiled when praying and prophesying.Her hair hanging down would veil her all the time.The bottom line is,).[5] But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered(unveiled with a cloth veil) dishonoureth her head(athority,man): for that is even all one as if she were shaven.[6] For if the woman be not covered(veiled), let her also be shorn(cut her hair also): but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn(cut her hair) or shaven, let her be covered(veiled).We know there are people who are contentious so we should not even hold to such a custom.
1 Cor.11:16: But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.
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I was discussing with a brother the other day the appearent contradiction of some UPCs that require women to wear their hair up at church...yet her hair is supposed to be a covering (veil)...veils my dear friends are not meant to be skull caps.
They are veils that come down off the head to the shoulders and lower. Telling women to wear their hair up in church sort of defeats the purpose of what the bible says about praying or prophesying uncovered if you ask me...if anything it would be in reverse....wear it up OUTSIDE of church.
This extends to those that wear actual material coverings. A veil is not a little piece of fabric on the head. What's the point in teaching long uncut hair if you are going to pile it or hide it (your glory) by wearing it up or teaching you are to wear an actual veil only to wear just a scarf or a fabric cap on the head?
I have had this same thought myself. It has been a matter of discussion with a dear friend and myself, and her husband.
I personally developed a conviction about this, that my hair was always down when I went to a service. It is my covering, why hide it? Why try to "get it out of the way"? I found that if I even tried to put my hair up, it felt very, very wrong, and I had to take it down.
Not long after that, my friend's husband made an excellent point that confirmed this for me... When a woman wears her hair down, and is bowed praying, it is amazing how that hair falls forward and actually creates a veil or curtain around her face. It almost creates a private space where only you and God are, where no one can see your face and there is no need to worry about what you look like. It is just you and God.
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