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Old 01-01-2008, 12:46 AM
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Being called a Sacramentalist is a slur.
That's rich ... it's no more a slur than saying someone believes in easy believism.

A sacrament is defined as:

In Christian belief and practice, a sacrament is a rite, instituted by Christ, that mediates grace, constituting a sacred mystery. The root meaning of the Latin word sacramentum is to "make sacred". Views concerning both what rites are sacramental, and what it means for an act to be sacramental vary among Christian denominations and traditions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacrament

1. Christianity A rite believed to be a means of or visible form of grace, especially:

Among the definitions of sacramentalist ... or sacramentarian include a very non-offensive:

n. One who regards the consecrated bread and wine of the Eucharist as only the metaphorical, and not the physical, body and blood of Jesus.

and for the purposes of our discussions:

One who holds opinions regarding the efficacy of sacraments.

How this word is now offensive is beyond me ...???

It can't be any more insulting than stating that a 1 stepper believes in easy believism ... and somehow believes in a mental assent type faith ... without obedience or concern for the mandates of God.

Grasping for straws.



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Old 01-01-2008, 12:51 AM
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Look, we can argue standards all day long, but I got tired of being castigated and gang-tackled by this bunch of heretical hyenas.
Heretical -
he·ret·i·calplay_w("H0162000") (h-rt-kl)
adj.1. Of or relating to heresy or heretics.
2. Characterized by, revealing, or approaching departure from established beliefs or standards.

Usually used for those in false doctrine ... perjorative.
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Old 01-01-2008, 12:55 AM
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If you preach a different gospel than what Peter preached at Pentecost you are NOT saved. I base that on these 2 scriptures.

Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.


Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.




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From G394; a (religious) ban or (concretely) excommunicated (thing or person): - accursed, anathema, curse, X great.



Those are NOT my words but the words from Paul. Will you continue to oppose scripture?
Anathema ... defined by the poster ... implied that one-steppers are accursed, excommunicated ... preaching another gospel.

Offensive.
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Old 01-01-2008, 12:58 AM
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Again the ONLY way for a person to have their sins remitted in the church age is for the repented to be baptized in Jesus Name. ONLY in baptism are the sins of the penitent remitted.
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Neckstadt, I am sorry to see you make these sort of accusations against me.

I don't understand the real grace of God?

Tell me, ALL OF YOU, please, why is it so important to you that we tear down Acts 2:38 as the proper response to the Gospel? I worry about men who consider themselves pastors and teachers - supposedly knowing the Word - who purposefully lead people into easy believism while at the same time saying they are still Pentecostal, Apostolic, Oneness and the like.
Easy believism ....

As defined by Theopedia:

Easy believism is the "popular slogan for the view that one simply has to believe in order to be saved and that there is no corresponding need for a committed life of Christian discipleship."[1] The result is that sanctification is divorced from justification, and discipleship is seen as a path that some Christians follow, but not others. The term carnal Christian is used to describe such a supposed Christian, who once made a "decision" but has not continued in discipleship. Names applied to this doctrine by opponents include no-lordship and cheap grace as it suggests that "accepting Jesus" does not involve any further commitments. Proponents of this view, on the other hand, prefer the term the "free grace" to describe their position. Easy-believism is also said to overemphasize the doctrine of assurance of salvation at the expense of personal authenticity.


Inaccurate ... offensive ... used perjoratively.
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Heretical -
he·ret·i·calplay_w("H0162000") (h-rt-kl)
adj.1. Of or relating to heresy or heretics.
2. Characterized by, revealing, or approaching departure from established beliefs or standards.

Usually used for those in false doctrine ... perjorative.
Dan, if you go back and read you will see that the Admin warned over this sort of stuff, not just to you but to them and YES this is also pejorative. EVERYONE was warned.

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I am seeing less and less of the traditional Acts 2:38 believers posting here. Who is left that still believes that it takes obeying Acts 2:38 in its completion to be saved??


Is this the beginning of the end for this forum being an Apostolic forum?? Have we gone charismatic?? Is the fat lady singing??
Questions worthy of repeating.
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Questions worthy of repeating.
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Lord I pray not.

Brothers Epley and Coonskinner are back. We still have a chance!
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Brothers Epley and Coonskinner are back. We still have a chance!
Scotty has added quite a bit to our side as well.
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