TULSA WEBSITE UPDATE:Benefits of Joining,address,names added and subtracted,etc

Originally Posted by keith4him

For Phil

Taken from the website, their motivation is fear and not faith

"The formation of WPF is an outgrowth of the changing times and directions within the American apostolic movement and is the result of a constellation of events and decisions which have shaped apostolic direction for some time—some, we fear, for the worse, and ours hopefully for the better. "

Actually, that is NOT the case. When I read that quote, their fear is for those who are headed the wrong direction. Their corporate expression for their direction is hope!

[anapko]

Originally Posted by keith4him

For Phil

Taken from the website, their motivation is fear and not faith

"The formation of WPF is an outgrowth of the changing times and directions within the American apostolic movement and is the result of a constellation of events and decisions which have shaped apostolic direction for some time—some, we fear, for the worse, and ours hopefully for the better. "

I couldn't agree more with your post. I also believe it is fear of losing control. With the new org. they can have complete control. That is until someone brings another resolution 4 to the table. Then they'll go somewhere else to start another org. Good Post!

[Encryptus]

Originally Posted by anapko

I couldn't agree more with your post. I also believe it is fear of losing control. With the new org. they can have complete control. That is until someone brings another resolution 4 to the table. Then they'll go somewhere else to start another org. Good Post!

Nah they'll split over split end trimming before that. :-)

[anapko]

Originally Posted by Encryptus

Nah they'll split over split end trimming before that. :-)

Righteous!!!

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by philjones

Actually, that is NOT the case. When I read that quote, their fear is for those who are headed the wrong direction. Their corporate expression for their direction is hope!

You miss my point, they are reacting to something, thus reactionary, and the motive is fear not faith.

For the simpletons among us, we see something and we are afraid therefore change (withdraw) and new fellowship is needed.

[SavedLou]

Hello! New here...my first post! I’m a little confused about this Tulsa thing. I know UPC pastors/churches are leaving due to the TV decision, etc. Is the WWPF a new “organization” with the Tulsa meeting their “kickoff” or is it just a meeting for anyone? I went to their site and saw all the names…are these the ones that have officially left? I feel so stupid and naive…I had no idea things had gotten to this point already.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by SavedLou

Hello! New here...my first post! I’m a little confused about this Tulsa thing. I know UPC pastors/churches are leaving due to the TV decision, etc. Is the WWPF a new “organization” with the Tulsa meeting their “kickoff” or is it just a meeting for anyone? I went to their site and saw all the names…are these the ones that have officially left? I feel so stupid and naive…I had no idea things had gotten to this point already.

Bloom where your are planted!

[SavedLou]

Originally Posted by keith4him

Bloom where your are planted!

trying to figure out where to apply that but...

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by SavedLou

trying to figure out where to apply that but...

Stay involved in your local church and stay out of the national stuff, your life and state of mind will be more peaceful.

[SavedLou]

Originally Posted by keith4him

Stay involved in your local church and stay out of the national stuff, your life and state of mind will be more peaceful.

planning on it. we are pretty happy as we are thankfully.