Spiritual Abuse Forum???

[tv1a]

Good post. Saints should never be afraid of people asking questions. Saints should not be offended if people don't buy their answers.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I didn't think you would disagree. Like I posted, on your site you have information on both sides of the fence.

The One God Truth and the Trinitarians trying to refute.






I don't think you understood what I posted. What I was saying is the atheists run neck and neck with the spiritual abuse crew who post that Apostolic Pentecostal preachers are dictators. So, I see it as just ducking the bullets that are fired from Trinitarians, Ex-One God, Atheists, New Agers, or cranky types who have lots of time on their hands.

I told a room of preachers that if what we have is the Gospel Truth then 50 tons of dynamite can’t blow it out of a person. People need the Holy Ghost and a prayer life, but most of all they need to study and ask questions when they don't understand. They also need to know how defend themselves with what they have learned from the Word.





The above happens when they put more stock into man then the SCRIPTURES.

Also where is the Holy Ghost in all of this? My wife and I would of been dead if we didn't have the power of the living God, and the Word.

How many people are even taught the scriptures? How many are taught to use a concordance, lexicon, or even a dictionary. How many are taught that they MUST ASK QUESTIONS! Offence comes when a child is young, and as that child grows, if you don't deal with that offence early, you will have a problem in the future.

Now don't get me wrong. there are "some" individuals who think they have "Divine Right of Kings" and cause people to go under the lash, but if people are hungry and wanting truth more than religion they will not only survive they will lead others out, and be able to stick with the Apostolic Faith, but leave the wreckage behind.

In Jesus Name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Rev

Want to draw a crowd? Have another Woodstock!

I understand that some folks did that until there just wasn't enough interest in the whole thing.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Rev

I think Coonskinner knows the woman. He didn't seem to think to highly of her.

I think she is a very sincere lady who loves God and loves people.

We have had very friendly interactions online.

She knows I strongly disagree with a lot of what goes on with her site, but we have a certain mutual respect. In her defense, she offered to publish whatever response or rebuttal I wanted to write.

I like Lois. I just think she is misguided.

[tv1a]

We got the talent to do another Woodstock. Although I don't think the pastor will do Jimi Hendrix. He's more of a Lynrd Skynrd type of guy. We got our plate full with plenty of other community outrach opportunities. A car show, biker sunday, cinco de mayo sunday for legals and not so legals in our community. We'll have focused outreach every weekend. A television station offering us free airtime, and all the publicity we want. We scheduled another Halloween Bash, another Thanksgiving Day Community Dinner, Community christmas programs, Mens meetings women's meetings, prayer meetings, fasting chains. Our church is in the process of converting an old bar into a community youth house, plans are to open a daily reporting center for people on probation. The church opened up a pre-school, we have made inroads into every school district in the county to help establish or support Bible clubs. Ladies in our church are meeting almost on a daily basis for prayer. They are in the process of organizing a women's exercise class. The goal is to turn those blue denim whales into blue denim dolphins. There will be classes taught on what the Bible says about finances, marraige, sex, health and nutrition, dating.

I don't see how we are going to have time for a Pentecostal Woodstock.

Originally Posted by Rev

Want to draw a crowd? Have another Woodstock!

[tv1a]

Woodstock II bombed because of horrid weather, blatent commercialism and like legalism, many realized what they believed in wasn't based in reality.

Originally Posted by pelathais

I understand that some folks did that until there just wasn't enough interest in the whole thing.

Originally Posted by Sherri

Sarge, I want to publicly apologize if I've spoken out of line. I did not know that you were Lois. I have heard of Lois for a long time on here, but I had never seen your site until tonight. I guess I just get tired of people rehashing this stuff over and over. That's one reason we stopped going to Global stuff several years back for a while, because when people got together, all they wanted to do was rehash UPC stuff. We were done with that and had moved on. Global did finally get past it and move on.

Anyway, if I've read the site wrong, I'm sorry.

No need for an apology, Sherri, I was just surprised you'd start a thread on it since the site has been a topic here (as well as NFCF & FCF) off and on. It's surprising you only just saw it. I wasn't offended, just surprised you didn't ask me if you wanted the answers to your questions. You can't get the answers from anyone else here.

The main web site isn't at all about rehashing stuff over and over. In fact, I share very little of my own experience in the UPC there. If you will spend a little time there and look around, perhaps you will see it in a different light, even if you still don't like the idea of it being there.

I was a part of Global for a brief period (maybe 1.5 years) and let my license lapse. I never became involved in any of their gatherings.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Sarge

No, Coonskinner does not know me personally- only via contact through these boards. We both have a mutual respect for one another and he's even called me "sister."

I answered almost word for word before I had read this post.

Good to see you.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I didn't think you would disagree. Like I posted, on your site you have information on both sides of the fence.

I feel it is only fair to allow my readers to also see the UPC/Apostolic material.
In fact, Doug Joseph has an article posted directly on the site, I believe in the Oneness/Trinity section.

I don't think you understood what I posted. What I was saying is the atheists run neck and neck with the spiritual abuse crew who post that Apostolic Pentecostal preachers are dictators. So, I see it as just ducking the bullets that are fired from Trinitarians, Ex-One God, Atheists, New Agers, or cranky types who have lots of time on their hands.

You are correct; I misunderstood what you were saying. Thank you for clairifying.

The above happens when they put more stock into man then the SCRIPTURES.

Yes, but. Some have a very difficult time separating their negative experience from God and His Word. It's isn't simply about putting more stock in man. It also goes along with what you shared later in your post- about being taught the scriptures, how to study, etc. They erroneously associate the wrong that happened as somehow coming from God or having something to do with God or feel if the Bible really teaches this, then they want nothing to do with it.

How many people are even taught the scriptures? How many are taught to use a concordance, lexicon, or even a dictionary. How many are taught that they MUST ASK QUESTIONS! Offence comes when a child is young, and as that child grows, if you don't deal with that offence early, you will have a problem in the future.

Well stated.

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I think she is a very sincere lady who loves God and loves people.

We have had very friendly interactions online.

She knows I strongly disagree with a lot of what goes on with her site, but we have a certain mutual respect. In her defense, she offered to publish whatever response or rebuttal I wanted to write.

I like Lois. I just think she is misguided.

Now, now, CS, you've gone and messed up someone's perception of what you think of me!

Nice to "see" you again. I hope you and your family are doing well.

I agree the site is a great example how we can help people heal and not be afraid to speak the truth about our feelings. There are people from all kind of denominations on there from what I found.

I am thankful that Lois is on this thread. Too many times people can say things and then it's taken as truth but with you on here responding the truth can be told, fair and balanced.

Thanks Lois. You and brother Buddy's sites helped me personally.