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Digging4Truth · #61 02-20-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

Well, when I look up the dictionary definition of satire, (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/satire )the article in question seems to fit well within that definition.

If you disagree, fine.

No problem.

You response seem to allude to a feeling on your part that satire was a comedic writing. Per the definitions given at Miriam Webster this article could very well be satire.

1 : a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn
2 : trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly

But for one to say....

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Good grief.
Its called satire, people.
S.A.T.I.R.E. Look it up if you don't know what the word means.

Some folks seem to take everything a bit too seriously.

...would seem, to me, to denote their feeling that the article was meant as a comedic expression and not to be take seriously. The true definition of satire, which you provided for us, may use comedic relief as a vehicle but the intent is to discredit, scorn, ridicule or expose.

But... having said all that... I reiterate... no problem.

MusicMaster · #62 02-20-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rkentsmith

I would of never posted the link to offend....

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Originally Posted by The Mrs

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

I have to agree.

You guys are smacking the wrong person upside da head!

that was for the op

TRFrance · #63 02-20-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kutless

Thats IT!!!!!!!! Where did you park!!!!!

funny :O)

Digging4Truth...

I hear you.
I just think some of the comments/responses were being a bit harsh on Bro Kent, thats all.

For example:

One person referred to his post as a "bash musicians diatribe"...

and another asked him "Do you hate everybody or just Pentecostals?"

All things considered, I think such comments were a bit much.

I don't think the writer was was "bashing musicians", nor was there any "hate" expressed in the article. Hyperbole to say the least.

As one who has spent several years in choral & music ministries myself, I've seen up close for myself that there can be "personality issues", etc. that arise in music ministry, yet I didn't find the article offensive.

Digging4Truth · #64 02-20-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

Digging4Truth...

I hear you.
I just think some of the comments/responses were being a bit harsh on Bro Kent, thats all.

For example:

One person referred to his post as a "bash musicians diatribe"...

and another asked him "Do you hate everybody or just Pentecostals?"

All things considered, I think such comments were a bit much.

I don't think the writer was was "bashing musicians", nor was there any "hate" expressed in the article. Hyperbole to say the least.

As one who has spent several years in choral & music ministries myself, I've seen up close for myself that there can be "personality issues", etc. that arise in music ministry, yet I didn't find the article offensive.

Yes sir (I assume sir)

Understood...

No problem at all.

Blessings,
D4T

Monkeyman · #65 02-20-2008, 12:17 PM

To Rkent & Tr, I hope you don't think I have anything against you, I just wanted to offer another side to that story, and to be honest, I have seen music devils, just not where I am currently leading. We cool? I do think musician bashing does occur, it doesn't just fall on the UC side either.

Digging4Truth · #66 02-20-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MusicMaster

You guys are smacking the wrong person upside da head!

that was for the op

Oh... Okay...

My apologies for any inadvertent erroneous smacking of incorrect heads.

TRFrance · #67 02-20-2008, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyman

To Rkent & Tr, I hope you don't think I have anything against you, I just wanted to offer another side to that story, and to be honest, I have seen music devils, just not where I am currently leading. We cool? I do think musician bashing does occur, it doesn't just fall on the UC side either.

Oh yeah. I got thick skin, baby.

Like a Rhino!!

MissBrattified · #68 02-20-2008, 12:35 PM

Hmmm...in my experience, the music team or worship team is often the most spiritual group in the church. They are expected to pray, fast, worship and provide anointed ministry when no one else does!

I do think there was one interesting point in the blog...that musicians have a talent that allows them to connect with the spiritual without pursuing the Almighty--(something like that)--Okay, I don't agree. We are emotional creatures, and our talent helps us get into touch with our EMOTIONS (and others' emotions), but we can't get into touch with God without actually pursuing Him. Everyone's on equal footing when it comes to getting close to Him.

Spirituality is sometimes confused with emotionalism. There's nothing wrong with emotions, and expressing them, and having an emotional response to the Spirit of God, BUT sometimes we just have an emotional response to music and that is seen as being "spiritual." Well, I've cried when watching movies so does that mean I'm in touch with the Spirit? Of course not.

What am I trying to say? Oh yeah. Carnal musicians can still get in touch with their emotions and pull on our heartstrings, but that doesn't mean their "talent" gives them a short track to God's presence.

Hey, and for some honesty: Have I ever faked it? Yep. I've gotten up on Sunday mornings when I was having a terrible day, fussed at the kids while we were getting ready, argued with Jeff on the way to church, went overtime in practice and missed the prayer room and then got up sang my heart out--and God still blessed it. So there's another point in there--sometimes people who are up front have to go about their ministry even when they don't feel like it or don't feel particularly spiritual--or when they aren't particularly spiritual. That isn't about being carnal--it's just about life, and doing their jobs in spite of it. That isn't a "music devil." It's L-I-F-E.