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[Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by rkentsmith

God bless all you fine people....

Sorry to have stirred up some.....

Please note the last two lines in the piece....

Blessings

The last 2 lines read if that made me mad, I probably have a devil in me...thanks RK, thanks. And then you "bless" me...

[Jehoram]

Originally Posted by rkentsmith

I would of never posted the link to offend....

Completely clueless?

I don't think so.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by rkentsmith

God bless all you fine people....

Sorry to have stirred up some.....

Please note the last two lines in the piece....

Blessings

You mean this part?

"If this makes you mad.....

I bet you do you have inside of you one of them.....

Music Devils....."




I disagree. That would be like you insinuating that many nurses have "medicine devils" and then saying "if it makes you mad you probably have one."

That is a manipulative technique which tries to control a person's response, by telling them what their response means before they are allowed to express it, in such a way that they will suppress a natural and reasonable response because you have connected it to a certain definition. Close, but no cigar.

Has anyone ever said something to you like, "IF you love me, you will ________."? Effectively, if you then choose not to do whatever it is they ask, you are proving by their prestated definition that you do not love them (even if that isn't true.) So then you will feel obligated to do whatever it is they have suggested in order to prove that you DO, after all, love them.

So you saying "If you get mad, maybe you have a music devil" doesn't really mean much, except that you are manipulating the response to your own writing in such a way as to prevent objection or argument without causing the objector to look bad.

Pretty crafty.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by rkentsmith

God bless all you fine people....

Sorry to have stirred up some.....

Please note the last two lines in the piece....

Blessings

RKent...

In case you haven't noticed... you're kinda digging the hole deeper.

Maybe its better to quit now, instead of pouring more gas on the fire.

Peace.

[Jehoram]

Kinda gives some insight into a person's thought process doesn't it?

Odd.

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

You mean this part?

"If this makes you mad.....

I bet you do you have inside of you one of them.....

Music Devils....."




I disagree. That would be like you insinuating that many nurses have "medicine devils" and then saying "if it makes you mad you probably have one."

That is a manipulative technique which tries to control a person's response, by telling them what their response means before they are allowed to express it, in such a way that they will suppress a natural and reasonable response because you have connected it to a certain definition. Close, but no cigar.

Has anyone ever said something to you like, "IF you love me, you will ________."? Effectively, if you then choose not to do whatever it is they ask, you are proving by their prestated definition that you do not love them (even if that isn't true.) So then you will feel obligated to do whatever it is they have suggested in order to prove that you DO, after all, love them.

So you saying "If you get mad, maybe you have a music devil" doesn't really mean much, except that you are manipulating the response to your own writing in such a way as to prevent objection or argument without causing the objector to look bad.

Pretty crafty.

Sis Bratt...you have some pretty amazing posts....

[MissBrattified]

TY.

[The Mrs]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

RKent...

In case you haven't noticed... you're kinda digging the hole deeper.

Maybe its better to quit now, instead of pouring more gas on the fire.

Peace.

[freeatlast]

HOW BOUT WE CHANGE SOME WORDS IN YOUR DIATRIBE RKENTSMITH...do you still find it amusing???
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I ponder this title....

And ask myself....

What is a Ministry Devil?

Everybody knows that Lucifer got kicked out of Heaven and landed behind the pulpit of the local United Pentecostal Church....

Or maybe in the pastors office....

Seems like if the devil shows up anywhere it will be somewhere in the ministy folks...

I call these things...

Preacher Devils...

However a Preacer Devil is not a person....

It is an attitude....

Those that are the artsy theological types many times possess a moody temperamental side that is difficult for the rest of us to deal with.

And since the intelectual types has talent that helps him into spiritual arenas without having to pursue the Almighty...

Or pray....

Many times their carnal side becomes prevalent....

Also, since we that are not preachers are dependent upon those that are.....

Many times we find ourselves bending rules to accommodate the mood swings of those inclined to preach....

We fail the preacher type by giving in to their moods....

When we do so, the mood of the preacher type learns that he now has power to flaunt and get its way it....

So the next time the mood appears.....

It appears in the form of a Ministry Devil....

Another way a Ministry Devil manifest itself is the fits and temper tantrums it seems to enjoy having while at Sunday night service......

Or even in a church service when something does not go its way.....

And then whammo.....

The Preacher Devil appears....

Have you ever seen the faces a Ministry Devil can make at a good saint....

Or have you seen the hand gestures that go back and forth...

Persons who struggle with the Preacher Devil Syndrome are quick to pout and threaten to leave the church......

Or purposely drag the service late droning on for hours....

Many times "dressed to the nines" so as to make a statement.....

The statement is....

You can't make it without me....

But the Ministry Devil is so mistaken.......

There is always a replacement....

Usually much better than he himself is.....

Preacher Devils are about a dime a dozen.....

They show up in a board meeting, not wanting to comply with the big picture of church programming....

Preacher Devils show up screaming sermons that make more racket than any single church can contain....

Preacher Devils show up in sound system wanting the amp so loud....

And want to get more monitor right in the middle of prayer request....

Preacher Devils show up and never are satisfied with Keyboardist. They buy sermons from JustpreachIt.com, bought and paid for with the offerings of the pitiful masses that he must condescend to serve.....

Ministry Devils show up in preachers who do not want to pray or work, but sure want a microphone....



YOU GET THE IDEA NOW ??? I’ll quit changing your words here Kent

Music Devils show up in praise teams ......

Music Devils never seem to want to do anything but be musical....

Never would one consider doing anything else in the church but music.....

Swab a toilet.....NO

Pick up a visitor.....NO

Show up at family prayer......maybe yes....maybe no.....

But throw a fit if something or someone crosses their whim in any way....YES

I've dealt with many Music Devils over the years....

Ironically, the musical person who struggles with a Music Devil is most times a most wonderful person....

He just has the glaring weakness of a Music Devil....

How many Music Devils have you seen fill out a tithe envelope?

Have you ever seen the musician who struggles with a Music Devil stroll into church late and then have the gall to meander up to the stage and assume their rightful position of power at the keyboard or organ?

The same cat has disdained to pray and now he and his Music Devil have the audicity to think that the anointing of the Holy Ghost is going to flow through them....

I don't think so.....

It ought not be done so in Israel......

Do you know anyone who struggles with a Music Devil?

Have you ever seen a Music Devil at your church?

Do you have a Music Devil?

If this makes you mad.....

I bet you do you have inside of you one of them.....

Music Devils.....

[Jehoram]

Oops.