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Old 02-20-2008, 04:14 PM
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Folks....take a break! I think many have way OVERREACTED! People, I am a musician, Choir Leader, Keyboardist, Preacher, Pastor.....

I didn't get offended. I can admit, being in the music ministry that many of these things are true. No, not all the time, but they do exist!

Thou dost protest tooooo much!
*shrug* I just think that musicians and singers get a bad rap because they are expected to be in touch with God 100% of the time, even when the minister or the saints aren't. And then when they aren't, they're labeled as "carnal" or as this blog misrepresented, "music devils."

I'm not offended. I'm just pointing out that the blog isn't accurate in my experience. I know too many great men and women of God who have devoted their entire lives and talents to God's service. That alone is to their credit. I wouldn't call anyone who is using their gift[s] for the glory of God a "devil." Even on a bad day.
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Folks....take a break! I think many have way OVERREACTED! People, I am a musician, Choir Leader, Keyboardist, Preacher, Pastor.....

I didn't get offended. I can admit, being in the music ministry that many of these things are true. No, not all the time, but they do exist!

Thou dost protest tooooo much! :ra zz
It was well aimed.....
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Old 02-20-2008, 04:16 PM
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I have already spent time with God today submitting my carnal spirit to Him.
Sis, thanks for keeping yourself right, even when I know you probably had to bite really hard on your tongue (or fingers... however you look at it) to keep from saying what was probably going through your mind.

This guy doesn't deserve to get the satisfaction of seeing you lose your cool.

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Old 02-20-2008, 04:21 PM
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*shrug* I just think that musicians and singers get a bad rap because they are expected to be in touch with God 100% of the time, even when the minister or the saints aren't. And then when they aren't, they're labeled as "carnal" or as this blog misrepresented, "music devils."

I'm not offended. I'm just pointing out that the blog isn't accurate in my experience. I know too many great men and women of God who have devoted their entire lives and talents to God's service. That alone is to their credit. I wouldn't call anyone who is using their gift[s] for the glory of God a "devil." Even on a bad day.
I really do understand your point. But, you have to admit the opposite is also true. There are those in the music ministry who DO fit the description. I don't think Bro. Smith meant it the way that it was taken.

We need to guard our spirits. I don't believe this was an attack, just probably his observation. You know, he has been in ministry for a while and I am sure seen his share of both sides of the coin.

I think we should be careful NOT to be so sensitive. There are 'devils' in all branches of ministry. As a minister (music and pulpit) I can admit that.
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Old 02-20-2008, 04:26 PM
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You people crack me up....

This piece was not about personalities....

Rather about folks who choose to set aside submission to God for their personal agenda...

I think the reword thing was hilarious....

Whatever happened to submission to God?

Whatever happened to doing it as unto the Lord?

Some of you folks have way lost sight of Godly submission.

This saddens me....

Just as a preacher with sin in his life will transfer that same sin into his church....

What kind of unsubmitted spirits are transferred by music folks who have ceased to submit to the Lord and have given themselves up to another spirit.....
i found nothing wrong with it.

not even after DA told me how to think about it.
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I have shared this with many ministry friends and always enjoy the chuckle shared when somebody else realizes they are not the only ones who struggle with such things. This is also posted currently on Full Proof Team Blog. Read more... www.rkentsmith.blogspot.com
I have seen spoiled and moody children who throw tantrums and fits whenever it pleases them. They are an embarrassment to all who know them and bring reproach to an otherwise stellar family name. Who is at fault?

Why, its the parents, of course. The allow the behaviour. They don't have what it takes to discipline their little darling with the proper proportion of firmness and love.

Music Devils, when they exist, are nurtured in an environment of permissiveness by spiritual leadership. The fact is, preachers have become dependent upon talented musicians to do the "heavy lifting" for them during services. The music devils usually reside in churches that promote first and disciple later.

Maybe we should not exalt those not spiritually ready to handle the pressure cooker life of a "local celebrity"? We would not do that for preachers.

The sooner pastors promote committed christians who are gifted to positions of ministry instead of promoting the gifted who profess christianity, the quicker the music devils will be cast out of the church.

The buck stops with the pastor.
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Old 02-20-2008, 04:42 PM
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Re: Music Devils

I'm really surprised at some of the responses. While I've already mentioned I don't particularly agree with the term "music devil", I did see the "personality profile" in the article as it relates to many creative minded people, not just musicians. MANY creative people are more prone to emotions and mood swings. That is all I took from the blog.
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I'm really surprised at some of the responses. While I've already mentioned I don't particularly agree with the term "music devil", I did see the "personality profile" in the article as it relates to many creative minded people, not just musicians. MANY creative people are more prone to emotions and mood swings. That is all I took from the blog.
That was not my take. We see many of these things in "the ministry" also and even worse, but we don't see too many articles on "Preacher Devils".
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Folks....take a break! I think many have way OVERREACTED! People, I am a musician, Choir Leader, Keyboardist, Preacher, Pastor.....

I didn't get offended. I can admit, being in the music ministry that many of these things are true. No, not all the time, but they do exist!

Thou dost protest tooooo much!
Oh My Goodness!!
(the heavens open... angels singing...)

A voice of reason in the wilderness! (thank you Lord)
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Oh My Goodness!!
(the heavens open... angels singing...)

A voice of reason in the wilderness! (thank you Lord)
I guess you would have reacted similarly to an thread concerning the ministry devil? Just asking.
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