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Old 03-01-2008, 12:43 PM
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I know that facts aren't important to you - but before you open your mouth you should at least try to check them.
HMD subsidizes SEM to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars a year. If they didn't it would have went belly up.
Sounds like you have had a good swig of somebodies KoolAid.
You got to be kidding me ... my dad sat on the national SEM board for years ... and I helped recently to organize and promote the SEM conferences for 3 years from 2004-2006 ...

I know the HMD handled the monies for SEM and many a times would subsidize the conferences which was it's major expense... I worked in tandem w/ HMD for 2 years to promote the conference and came very close to becoming the administrative assistant for SEM ... I was given the offer in writing by the director himself.

.... many questions have always been unanswered as to funding that was received and distributed to SEM ... including the amounts given in honorariums. Questions often passed over at ministerial business meetings when financials were read ... with the answer always being we need to trust those w/ the purse.

I also know that SEM has pleaded w/ HQ to allow them to have the reins for many, many years... I am thankful that this is finally happening, albeit late in the game, IMO ... it's a dream come true for many of my friends.

but considering the financial and political fragility of the org ... w/ churches pulling out ... I have to question the timing of such a move as either being financially irresponsible or politically expedient ... considering the present climate ... You've even admitted in your post that it would go belly up if big brother didn't cover the costs. How smart is that for spin doctors to admit? ....and I simply remarked that SEM does not have the monies for this in it of itself ... since HMD holds the purse.

I am also aware that in '06 (pre-schism) that the powers that be came very close to making SEM a division and were going to present this to the GB at the 06 General Conference but a lack of confidence in the new Spanish leadership voted in at the 06 SEM conference scrubbed the plan.

Apparently, my learned, loyal, and humble friend Elder Vitanza has finally earned the trust of the mothership.

Good news is the org will have a another offering drive to unload on it's constituents. I'd suggest it not coincide w/ Sheaves for Christ ... Christmas for Christ ...

A PIM system would be best to fund the new Spanish division. Although that will be taxing on the director who already is overwhelmed... better get those regional directors to work a little more.

Pass the koolaid. The spin stops here.
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Old 03-01-2008, 01:17 PM
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It depends on what level you are at.

I believe it is somewhere between $85 and a bit over $100 a quarter. I'm sure someone will correct those numbers.
Actually you are just a little high. Ordination, which is the highest is 99.50 a quarter. General is 87.50, I believe. And local is about $10 less.
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Old 03-01-2008, 01:18 PM
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Actually you are just a little high. Ordination, which is the highest is 99.50 a quarter. General is 87.50, I believe. And local is about $10 less.
That does not include the monies that HAVE to be paid to the local district.
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Old 03-01-2008, 01:20 PM
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That does not include the monies that to be paid to the local district.
True and in many cases District dues are higher than the UPCI.
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Old 03-01-2008, 01:23 PM
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True and in many cases District dues are higher than the UPCI.
State taxes higher than Federal taxes ... go figure.
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It depends on what level you are at.

I believe it is somewhere between $85 and a bit over $100 a quarter. I'm sure someone will correct those numbers.
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Actually you are just a little high. Ordination, which is the highest is 99.50 a quarter. General is 87.50, I believe. And local is about $10 less.
So I am understanding you gentlemen to say that the dues in WPF are QUITE a bit higher than UPC?

What extra bang for your buck to do get? (Besides the assurance of being on the right of any holiness dispute)...
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Old 03-01-2008, 01:51 PM
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So I am understanding you gentlemen to say that the dues in WPF are QUITE a bit higher than UPC?

What extra bang for your buck to do get? (Besides the assurance of being on the right of any holiness dispute)...
No because you have to pay dues to the local district also ... if in the UPCI
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No because you have to pay dues to the local district also ... if in the UPCI
I don't remember paying dues at the district level when my husband was licenced, but my memory is like a sieve these days.
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I don't remember paying dues at the district level when my husband was licenced, but my memory is like a sieve these days.
The bare minimum in NYMD that you had to pay was $120 a year if I remember correctly.
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The bare minimum in NYMD that you had to pay was $120 a year if I remember correctly.
I'm going to check ours now, you've got me curious. I don't remember paying anything extra to the district at the time. But like I said... I have mommy-brain.
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