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03-10-2008, 08:08 PM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
the reason for kansas could be in this quote from the speaker at the upci ministers retreat in this state . quote we lost half of our district but our giving has increased seems once we get rid of the disgruntleds things improve unquote ,whistling through the graveyard?
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03-10-2008, 09:39 PM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
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Originally Posted by oletime
the reason for kansas could be in this quote from the speaker at the upci ministers retreat in this state . quote we lost half of our district but our giving has increased seems once we get rid of the disgruntleds things improve unquote ,whistling through the graveyard?
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Kansas lost a lot of their UPC pastors in the ultra con desertion awhile back and now it looks like they are losing even more either to the WWPF or GIB.
I guess the last UPC pastor there will just have to turn the lights out.
Sounds like Kansas would be a good district to move to if one had aspirations to be a district official. They are going to end up with so few pastors every one of them will hold some district position!
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03-10-2008, 11:54 PM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
The apostolic identity as I understand scripture has nothing to do with a clothesline. The apostolic identity is Holy Ghost power. We have made apostolic identity something we wear as opposed to something we should be. It's a joke, and unscriptural to cling onto a legalistic unscriptural mandate for an identity.
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Look like there trying to get there house in order
The part that struck me was the last 3 paragraphs under
General Board Ruling
February 26, 2008
It is imperative that we not only proclaim separation, but that it be taught so as to give this generation reason for the basic fundamentals as stated in the Articles of Faith.
The General Youth Department presented plans for Youth Congress 2009, outlining ideas that will incorporate this goal. In an attempt to realize the curbing of some problems and concerns, the General Youth Division will develop platform guidelines for both Youth Congress and Bible Quizzing.
Please know that there was a great spirit of unity and commitment to maintain our Apostolic identity while at the same time going forward with a strong passion for Global Impact.
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03-11-2008, 05:09 AM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
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Originally Posted by tv1a
The apostolic identity as I understand scripture has nothing to do with a clothesline. The apostolic identity is Holy Ghost power. We have made apostolic identity something we wear as opposed to something we should be. It's a joke, and unscriptural to cling onto a legalistic unscriptural mandate for an identity.
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whose "we"....you got a mouse in your pocket brother??
Some of us UPC don't identify with what we wear, but we wear it anyway.
"Don't get me wrong, I believe Holiness standards are good,
But Hell don't care about your standards.
The devil don't tremble because of the way you dress"
--Pastor Mike Mitchell, Brooklyn NY. UPC
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In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
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03-11-2008, 05:38 AM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
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whose "we"....you got a mouse in your pocket brother??
Some of us UPC don't identify with what we wear, but we wear it anyway.
"Don't get me wrong, I believe Holiness standards are good,
But Hell don't care about your standards.
The devil don't tremble because of the way you dress"
--Pastor Mike Mitchell, Brooklyn NY. UPC
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Preach it, Scotty!
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03-11-2008, 08:06 AM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
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If I can ask.......was this "word" officially released or is this your inside source? Just curious!
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Came directly from one of the people at Headquarters. Not an official release.
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03-11-2008, 08:23 AM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
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Originally Posted by scotty
whose "we"....you got a mouse in your pocket brother??
Some of us UPC don't identify with what we wear, but we wear it anyway.
"Don't get me wrong, I believe Holiness standards are good,
But Hell don't care about your standards.
The devil don't tremble because of the way you dress"
--Pastor Mike Mitchell, Brooklyn NY. UPC
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I love brother Mitchell ... Great preacher and friend.
He ain't hung up on clotheslines.
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03-11-2008, 08:34 AM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
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The last word from Hazelwood (that's today) only about 200 have dropped out of UPCI, that's not an earth shattering number out of approx.9248 ministers listed in the directory. There has been a big rush of ministers getting their renewals in so they won't be dropped. That means there are still about 9,000 faithful left and growing all the time. UPCI may have it's problems but it's still the best there is.
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Brother Worthy ... a decade ago there were about 8700-8800 mininsters ... that's a net gain only about 300 ministers in 10 years!! Best there is ????
Why is there such great turnaround ... where is the monumental growth that's talked about?
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03-11-2008, 08:38 AM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
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I love brother Mitchell ... Great preacher and friend.
He ain't hung up on clotheslines.
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He preach at a confrence in Bossier City, LA. this weekend....awesome service.
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You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
www.scottysweb.com
www.chrisscottonline.com
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03-11-2008, 08:42 AM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
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He preach at a confrence in Bossier City, LA. this weekend....awesome service.
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What a great smile ... He can sing too!!!
Has a great building there in Brooklyn.
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