Obama Addresses Racial "Anger"

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

If that happens, that would certainly kick up a storm of protest. It would look like "they took the nomination away from the black guy".

If Hillary wins the nomination the Democratic party would be so divided that John McCain would almost certainly win the election in November.

One can only hope

[TRFrance]

I'm afraid it's just flat too little too late for Obama.

There's just something about being caught with your britches down and your bare rear end exposed. No matter how fast you try and pull em back up...the sight of that ugly 'ol rear end lingers on and on and on.......

Stick a fork in him,folks. He is DONE.

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

I'm afraid it's just flat too little too late for Obama.

There's just something about being caught with your britches down and your bare rear end exposed. No matter how fast you try and pull em back up...the sight of that ugly 'ol rear end lingers on and on and on.......

Stick a fork in him,folks. He is DONE.

okay i have this really nasty visual
thank you very much

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

I'm afraid it's just flat too little too late for Obama.

There's just something about being caught with your britches down and your bare rear end exposed. No matter how fast you try and pull em back up...the sight of that ugly 'ol rear end lingers on and on and on.......

Stick a fork in him,folks. He is DONE.

If Obama is "done" it will be because most Americans are non-confrontational.

This whole episode forces Americans into either denial or dialogue, many will take the easy path. Even those who engage in dialogue will find that there are no easy answers and there is enough "blame" to pass around to everyone.

[missdkendall]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Right. If he were mixed, Mary would also had to have been mixed. Jesus had no earthly father. No sperm involved.

My point exactly!!!!!!!!!

[Jermyn Davidson]

[QUOTE=COOPER;419306]This was posted Feb 19, 2008 on The Nations of Islam site Reposted from "The Fall of America," 1973


THIS IS A DANGEROUS RELIGION


Cooper,
f-khan advocates land given to him so he and his fellow black separatists can go and have their own country. Even if our govt was to do something so ludicrous, his "new country" would look to America for military defense, trade, and more.

he wants to disown his America-- in the end, he would still need America and be offended if America wasn't there to help him!

Only God can help everyone....

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Right. If he were mixed, Mary would also had to have been mixed. Jesus had no earthly father. No sperm involved.

Someone else brought up the blood line of Christ and I gave this rabbit trail a path through this thread.

The human blood line of our Savior was not racially "pure". I believe this was done intentionally by the Almighty God so that in the 21st century, when someone begins to think along the lines of, "interracial marrying is sinful", they can look to their Savior and realize their attitude is sinful.

[COOPER]

[QUOTE=1399;419994]

Originally Posted by COOPER

This was posted Feb 19, 2008 on The Nations of Islam site Reposted from "The Fall of America," 1973


THIS IS A DANGEROUS RELIGION


Cooper,
f-khan advocates land given to him so he and his fellow black separatists can go and have their own country. Even if our govt was to do something so ludicrous, his "new country" would look to America for military defense, trade, and more.

he wants to disown his America-- in the end, he would still need America and be offended if America wasn't there to help him!

Only God can help everyone....

Hey...thats a good point agent 1399!

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by COOPER

That sounds just like The Nations of Islam teachings and Farrakhan.

They Believe that The Rich White Governments have had conspiracies against the Black race and other dark skins for centuries.

Bro....we've fueled those paranoid beliefs through how we've really treated them. Here is perhaps the best example:

The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762136.html

The United States government did something that was wrong—deeply, profoundly, morally wrong. It was an outrage to our commitment to integrity and equality for all our citizens. . . . clearly racist.
—President Clinton's apology for the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment to the eight remaining survivors, May 16, 1997

For forty years between 1932 and 1972, the U.S. Public Health Service (PHS) conducted an experiment on 399 black men in the late stages of syphilis. These men, for the most part illiterate sharecroppers from one of the poorest counties in Alabama, were never told what disease they were suffering from or of its seriousness. Informed that they were being treated for “bad blood,”1 their doctors had no intention of curing them of syphilis at all. The data for the experiment was to be collected from autopsies of the men, and they were thus deliberately left to degenerate under the ravages of tertiary syphilis—which can include tumors, heart disease, paralysis, blindness, insanity, and death. “As I see it,” one of the doctors involved explained, “we have no further interest in these patients until they die.”

Blowing the Whistle

The story finally broke in the Washington Star on July 25, 1972, in an article by Jean Heller of the Associated Press. Her source was Peter Buxtun, a former PHS venereal disease interviewer and one of the few whistle blowers over the years. The PHS, however, remained unrepentant, claiming the men had been “volunteers” and “were always happy to see the doctors,” and an Alabama state health officer who had been involved claimed “somebody is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.”

Under the glare of publicity, the government ended their experiment, and for the first time provided the men with effective medical treatment for syphilis. Fred Gray, a lawyer who had previously defended Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King, filed a class action suit that provided a $10 million out-of-court settlement for the men and their families. Gray, however, named only whites and white organizations in the suit, portraying Tuskegee as a black and white case when it was in fact more complex than that—black doctors and institutions had been involved from beginning to end.

The PHS did not accept the media's comparison of Tuskegee with the appalling experiments performed by Nazi doctors on their Jewish victims during World War II. Yet in addition to the medical and racist parallels, the PHS offered the same morally bankrupt defense offered at the Nuremberg trials: they claimed they were just carrying out orders, mere cogs in the wheel of the PHS bureaucracy, exempt from personal responsibility.

The study's other justification—for the greater good of science—is equally spurious. Scientific protocol had been shoddy from the start. Since the men had in fact received some medication for syphilis in the beginning of the study, however inadequate, it thereby corrupted the outcome of a study of “untreated syphilis.”

In 1990, a survey found that 10 percent of African Americans believed that the U.S. government created AIDS as a plot to exterminate blacks, and another 20 percent could not rule out the possibility that this might be true. As preposterous and paranoid as this may sound, at one time the Tuskegee experiment must have seemed equally farfetched. Who could imagine the government, all the way up to the Surgeon General of the United States, deliberately allowing a group of its citizens to die from a terrible disease for the sake of an ill-conceived experiment? In light of this and many other shameful episodes in our history, African Americans' widespread mistrust of the government and white society in general should not be a surprise to anyone. —BB

America treated black men with syphilis like laboratory animals to test and watch die. Bro...I need not remind you that the Nazis did the same thing to the Jews. It is this sort of thing that has happened in our history that allows black people to believe in this conspiracy theories.

YOU HAVE TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THEM. Could you imagine what it would be like if the news reported today that the American government was conducting inhumane medical experiments on Apostolics? That would scare how we view this government and our system for generations. You have to try to UNDERSTAND before passing a judgment on them. Dude, they didn't even get a formal apology from the government until President Clinton.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

Bro....we've fueled those paranoid beliefs through how we've really treated them. Here is perhaps the best example:





America treated black men with syphilis like laboratory animals to test and watch die. Bro...I need not remind you that the Nazis did the same thing to the Jews. It is this sort of thing that has happened in our history that allows black people to believe in this conspiracy theories.

YOU HAVE TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THEM. Could you imagine what it would be like if the news reported today that the American government was conducting inhumane medical experiments on Apostolics? That would scare how we view this government and our system for generations. You have to try to UNDERSTAND before passing a judgment on them.

I do understand. There are many things about White history that is sickening.