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Old 03-23-2008, 10:29 PM
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Re: FOX Lies!! Barack Obama Pastor Wright

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There may not be a difference, I'll agree with you there. I don't think anyone should call down God's judgment. We should be pleading for His mercy.
True. But sometimes preachers are feeling what they are feeling so strong that that's the only way they can get their point across; they call on the judgement of God.
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Old 03-23-2008, 10:39 PM
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Sister, I can't see how you can say JW was using GD as a slang term. He used the term in the way the term is defined, not as a slang term.
He was calling on God to ************/condemn America for its racist attitude.
He was not intending to "cuss."
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Old 03-23-2008, 10:44 PM
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... Minorities have more rights in this country then white men will ever have. ...
Surely you must be a racist to say something like that.

We don't say stuff like that.
It's not politically correct.

Affirmative action (some times referred to as "set asides" or "reverse discrimination" or "tilting the playing field") is just a way of trying to correct long-standing inequities.
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:11 PM
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Well everyone knows Fox is fair and balanced, TR

did you watch both videos?
Neither Hillary or Obama are going to win this race.

Obama is eloquent for sure, but this Rev. Wright business has just neutered what his enitre candidacy is about. He is campaigning on "sound judgment". How can one say he has good judgment when he has listened to this kind of rhetoric for 20 years and never has spoken a word against it?

Obama is campaigning on a "different kind of politics in Washington" and yet he only now distances himself from Wright and throws his white grandmother under the bus for political expediency?

Obama campaigns on the "power of words" and yet wants to dismiss Wright's words as out of context?

I love you DA, but he is going to have to completely rewrite his strategy, which he cant' do because its the only thing beating Hillary. In the general election, these issues will dog him.

Hillary can only become the nominee with under handed tricks, which I think she is fully capable of doing. If she wins the nomination, the black vote, which every Democratic Presidential candidate must have at least in the 90 percentile to win a general election will drop significantly enough that she will not be able to defeat McCain.

Unless McCain is found making hand gestures in public restrooms or found listed in some prostitutes address book, I think the election is his to lose.

But as they say, "In politics a week can be a lifetime." There's a lot of time between now and November.
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:14 PM
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Listen, I let is slide when you called someone else a racist, but you aren't going to get away with it with me. You have lost your mind, if you think you can even come close to pegging me as a racist.
depends on if you agree with him or not. Would you say the man was racist if he were white and spewing this venom about blacks? The Rev IS a racist bigot!!!
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:23 PM
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depends on if you agree with him or not. Would you say the man was racist if he were white and spewing this venom about blacks? The Rev IS a racist bigot!!!

I don't care what you call him, but you aren't going to get by with calling me a racist. I can promise you that much.
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I don't care what you call him, but you aren't going to get by with calling me a racist. I can promise you that much.
I dont think I said you were a racist? Show me where I called you a racist.
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:27 PM
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I don't care what you call him, but you aren't going to get by with calling me a racist. I can promise you that much.
Can you answer this question then? Would you say the man was racist if he were white and spewing this venom about blacks?
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:29 PM
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Can you answer this question then? Would you say the man was racist if he were white and spewing this venom about blacks?
If black people had owned white people, bought and sold white people, hung white people from trees, and made white people fight so hard just for basic human rights and dignity, then no, I would not consider them racist.
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:31 PM
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True. But sometimes preachers are feeling what they are feeling so strong that that's the only way they can get their point across; they call on the judgement of God.

But it doesn't matter what other preachers are saying; they aren't pastoring a man running for Prez. I don't have a problem with BO's skin. I voted for Alan Keyes back in 2000 primaries, so my opposition to BO has nothing to do with a black man for president. His agenda is way too over the top liberal for me, no matter how eloquent he is. I'm opposed to his positions on the issues that matter most to me.

All I have to say is this: if BO doesn't win either the nomination or the general election, I hope to God his supporters don't revert to, "see America IS racist!" If he loses and the mantra is playing the race card, it will actually set America back on race relations rather than help. The fact that he has come this far shows that America has come a long way. Sure there is more room for improvement, but if the supporters of BO take a position of "either elect him America or its proof you're all racists", they will hurt their cause rather than advance it.
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